Victoria, feral cats

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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by Mitch » 13 Oct 2016, 4:52 am

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Gwion wrote:Most places actually regulate that cats are to be desexed, kept inside at night and are not to leave the owners property. .


You surely cannot be serious ?


I think gwion is one the money.

I also firmly believe that you want a pet, contain it to your property. End of story, no whinging, your pet, your property, if it leaves your property, I'm more than happy for it to be shot/run over
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by deadkitty » 13 Oct 2016, 5:41 am

Sam45 wrote:I live in burbs and i'm surrounded by units. My cat trap has caught many a cat! It will continue to catch many a cat and I will continue to drop them off at the RSPCA where they can euthanize them for me. Native wildlife saved, killing machines gone. When I moved in here 18 months ago, I reckon there was about 2 dozen or more, some feral and some pets. All off to the RSPCA :thumbsup:

Could use the .22 with subs, a little risky i think :silent:


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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by Gwion » 15 Oct 2016, 5:45 pm

MR. WINCHESTER wrote:Oldbloke ...

It was Gwions use of the word 'most' .....that I struggled with.

I should have highlighted it.

( he probably should not have used it ! )

P.S. he's from 'down there', right ?

I / we, should cut the poor sod some slack ?


Haha...

Ok. So maybe not most, nut many. Most urban areas that share boundaries with state and national parks especially.

Cats are declared pest in Tas.
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by Oldbloke » 15 Oct 2016, 7:02 pm

MR. WINCHESTER wrote:
Gwion wrote:Most places actually regulate that cats are to be desexed, kept inside at night and are not to leave the owners property. .


You surely cannot be serious ?


Dont know about other states but I Victoria its councils (not all obviously) that require they be inside at night and on owners property. So its not well policed. Just a paper tiger.
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by Gwion » 15 Oct 2016, 8:26 pm

Oldbloke wrote:
MR. WINCHESTER wrote:
Gwion wrote:Most places actually regulate that cats are to be desexed, kept inside at night and are not to leave the owners property. .


You surely cannot be serious ?


Dont know about other states but I Victoria its councils (not all obviously) that require they be inside at night and on owners property. So its not well policed. Just a paper tiger.


Yep.
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by MR. WINCHESTER » 16 Oct 2016, 7:40 pm

^^^^

HEY ! That's my cat !!!

I've been looking for little 'Cha Cha' for ages.

Is she O.K. ?

When can I come pick her up ?

Please look after her until my arrival.

( she likes a tickle under her chin and a cheesy treat )

EDIT: What did you do with her collar ?
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by darwindingo » 16 Oct 2016, 9:32 pm

Don't worry MR. WINCHESTER, looks like little Cha Cha has been well taken care of.. :lol:

And bentaz.. Sure mate, ya daughters you say :P .... I believe you ;) :lol:

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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by Oldbloke » 16 Oct 2016, 10:13 pm

Another bad guy bites the dust. Did ya shoot him in the back or face him off.?
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by deadkitty » 17 Oct 2016, 5:37 am

Pink gun????, mmmmm dead cat?..... all is forgiven. Bunch of funny buggers in here....
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by albat » 24 Oct 2016, 4:04 pm

Went to a property last week near gympie qld the old fella who owns it gave us a run down on the place before shooting,he told us that in a certain area he often see's big black cats like puma size animals and often finds roos with the heads taken off scrathes up trees bigish paw prints in the mud had a bit of fright he reckons when he suprised one in the thick scrub so he goes tooled up "with a short barrel firearm" whenever on that part of the property spoke to a couple of other mates who have been there and they shot stuff only to go back next day to see heads missing? Anyone seen any "big cats" out there?.22 in the swag for a few nights ha ha
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by doc » 24 Oct 2016, 4:38 pm

Modena wrote:yes that may be so, my question was more around the "legal side" and whether they can actually be shot as pests. Seems things are perhaps a little grey, especially within "cat range" of a "domestic setting".


That's an interesting question - and not just cats, but dogs as well...

If there are dogs on your property - especially if there have been attacks on livestock I was always under the impression that it was legally fine to shoot them. (Not that I have, or have needed to). I'm not 100% sure, but I imagine cats would fall under a similar ruling (whatever it might be).

But after your question, and especially the bit about them not being considered pests - I have no idea where this legally falls under in state parks - especially if the animal belongs to someone else (domesticated dog or cat).
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by Ed9362 » 24 Oct 2016, 6:50 pm

All cats are feral, just some live in people houses.
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by Oldbloke » 24 Oct 2016, 6:58 pm

Must be heaps out in the bush. Almost every trip in the bush I smell Tom cats. Never see them though. Foxes too.
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by Oldbloke » 04 Aug 2017, 9:12 pm

Went to the local SF the other day. Had a walk and a bit of a whistle for foxes but nothing showed.
But on two separate locations about Km apart I could smell cats pee. This often happens but I never see the buggers and they won't come into the whistle. I look up trees too but don't see them. What's the secret?
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by Daddybang » 04 Aug 2017, 9:29 pm

Oldbloke wrote:Went to the local SF the other day. Had a walk and a bit of a whistle for foxes but nothing showed.
But on two separate locations about Km apart I could smell cats pee. This often happens but I never see the buggers and they won't come into the whistle. I look up trees too but don't see them. What's the secret?


I've always gone after cats at night. They seem to be easier to find. :drinks:
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by juststarting » 05 Aug 2017, 12:44 am

My oldest been learning about foxes in school and on a road trip, I was explaining to him what a feral cat is, how it's more or less the same as a fox, what he learned in school...

Driving through Philip Island caravan park, cat walks across the road. I try to accelerate, wifey tells me off (being in a caravan park and all), the cat runs off...

From the back I hear, with the same excited voice, that I get when I go shooting - "did you bring your gun daddy?"

f***ing proud father moment right there.
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by pomemax » 05 Aug 2017, 1:04 am

National declaration: feral cats as pests

At the Meeting of Environment Ministers (Melbourne, 15 July 2015), Ministers endorsed the National declaration of feral cats as pests . As part of this declaration, Ministers agreed to review arrangements within their respective jurisdictions and, where necessary, to remove unnecessary barriers to effective and humane control of feral cats. Ministers also agreed to consider feral cat management as a priority in threatened species recovery programs, and to pursue the development of a national best practice approach to the keeping of domestic cats.

National Declaration: Feral Cats as Pests (PDF - 17.03 KB) | (DOCX - 32.61 KB)
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by darwindingo » 05 Aug 2017, 1:53 am

juststarting wrote:My oldest been learning about foxes in school and on a road trip, I was explaining to him what a feral cat is, how it's more or less the same as a fox, what he learned in school...

Driving through Philip Island caravan park, cat walks across the road. I try to accelerate, wifey tells me off (being in a caravan park and all), the cat runs off...

From the back I hear, with the same excited voice, that I get when I go shooting - "did you bring your gun daddy?"

f***ing proud father moment right there.


That's bloody GOLD...!!!!

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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by Daddybang » 05 Aug 2017, 7:45 am

juststarting wrote:My oldest been learning about foxes in school and on a road trip, I was explaining to him what a feral cat is, how it's more or less the same as a fox, what he learned in school...

Driving through Philip Island caravan park, cat walks across the road. I try to accelerate, wifey tells me off (being in a caravan park and all), the cat runs off...

From the back I hear, with the same excited voice, that I get when I go shooting - "did you bring your gun daddy?"

f***ing proud father moment right there.



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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by Oldbloke » 05 Aug 2017, 8:55 pm

Daddybang wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:Went to the local SF the other day. Had a walk and a bit of a whistle for foxes but nothing showed.
But on two separate locations about Km apart I could smell cats pee. This often happens but I never see the buggers and they won't come into the whistle. I look up trees too but don't see them. What's the secret?


I've always gone after cats at night. They seem to be easier to find. :drinks:


Yeah, but I'm not in to spot lighting.
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by Daddybang » 05 Aug 2017, 10:34 pm

Oldbloke wrote:
Daddybang wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:Went to the local SF the other day. Had a walk and a bit of a whistle for foxes but nothing showed.
But on two separate locations about Km apart I could smell cats pee. This often happens but I never see the buggers and they won't come into the whistle. I look up trees too but don't see them. What's the secret?


I've always gone after cats at night. They seem to be easier to find. :drinks:


Yeah, but I'm not in to spot lighting.



Could always try a tin of tuna/whiskas in the area ya smelling them in but they can be sly buggers. :drinks:
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by Oldbloke » 06 Aug 2017, 10:58 am

"Could always try a tin of tuna/whiskas in the area ya smelling them in but they can be sly buggers."

I'm afraid not very practical as the SF is about a 45 minute drive away. And the other is over an hour. I usually go for a few hours so guess I could leave a bait when I arrive and return later once I find a spot.
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by happyhunter » 06 Aug 2017, 5:04 pm

Feral cats are almost no challenge. You can be upwind and get scented and they don't bolt. Half the time they just look at you waiting to be shot or walk slowly away. They are a sight and sound based hunter and usually pretty confident and curious, usually their downfall unless some one else has had a crack at moggy and missed giving the bugger an education.
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by RoginaJack » 17 Nov 2018, 5:02 pm

Well, "HappyHunter", meet "unhappy Trapper"!

I've got a feral cat that's got Champagne tastes. It just won't go into the trap but just sits at the front and watches. I've put out a tin of teases - chopped up snags, mince and Salmon to get it used to feeding at the trap entrance etc but no, wont go in. Gourmet Tom, will pick out the Salmon tail and leave it to one side but eat the snags and mince, then pick up the empty tin, drink the water from the bowl and wander off. With the ants around here, I put the food tin into a bowl of water.
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by PoorShot300 » 17 Nov 2018, 9:01 pm

dbl post. :evil:
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by PoorShot300 » 17 Nov 2018, 9:01 pm

Maybe,.. make the placement of the bait into the cage progressive. I'd just move the receptacle 1/2 diameter at a time, allow 3-4 times before next move...rather than just outside/inside...

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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by Stix » 17 Nov 2018, 11:22 pm

Its probably the smell of the trap mate... :thumbsup:

A stretch i know, but if possible, clean the trap, shoot another cat & wipe the trap down with the dead cat using its glands around mouth/side of face & its rear end...

If not, try a cat attractant like they use on toy mice etc on a toy mouse or bird hanging from the inside on the trap latch.

Use a trail cam to find what its schedule is & just be there early to shoot the fukr...!! :clap:
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by Bigjobss » 18 Nov 2018, 2:55 pm

I killed one a couple days ago in the ANP whilst stalking into a gully I almost stood on the bloody thing and it ran about 10m onto a log and looked back at me long enough to ensure it was its final mistake.
And yes I know you are only meant to shoot deer up there...I shot a dog too on the trip so have at it.
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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by Stix » 18 Nov 2018, 6:07 pm

Bigjobss wrote:I killed one a couple days ago in the ANP whilst stalking into a gully I almost stood on the bloody thing and it ran about 10m onto a log and looked back at me long enough to ensure it was its final mistake.
And yes I know you are only meant to shoot deer up there...I shot a dog too on the trip so have at it.


You cant tell a yarn like that & not show pics...sheesh...!!! :unknown:

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Re: Victoria, feral cats

Post by Bigjobss » 18 Nov 2018, 7:05 pm

Stix wrote:
Bigjobss wrote:I killed one a couple days ago in the ANP whilst stalking into a gully I almost stood on the bloody thing and it ran about 10m onto a log and looked back at me long enough to ensure it was its final mistake.
And yes I know you are only meant to shoot deer up there...I shot a dog too on the trip so have at it.


You cant tell a yarn like that & not show pics...sheesh...!!! :unknown:

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Sorry mate no pics never even thought of it and the cat wasnt overly photogenic copping a 300wm at 15m. Come to think of it I've only taken one deer photo this year too because it was my first fallow but the rest were small does so I let the freezer do the talking :drinks:
The cat was normal sized and pitch black, had a small grey kitten with it which is probably why it stopped, the kitten was at my feet hissing when I shot its mum, strange experience.
The dog was pretty big orange with white tinges, sorta dingo looking shot at the edge of this swamp...I was perched up high in cover and watched it come in following my tracks from the morming, also stranged experience watching it sniffing the ground I had walked tracking me down
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