Goats in VIC State Forests

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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by shapeshifter » 06 Jan 2017, 3:24 pm

You are not helping Happy! Got the hee bee jeebies right now
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by Die Judicii » 06 Jan 2017, 6:44 pm

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Any advice on snakes in these areas at this time of year?


LOL,,,,,,,, I'd be guessing your a city hunter or thereabouts ? :unknown:

Don't worry about the snakes ol mate,,,,, they won't chase you down.
Leave em alone, and they'll leave you alone. :thumbsup:

At worst if you are in the right area,,,,,,, you might get a scrub python crawl into your swag during the night.
My neighbour was awakened by one last year in his house as it tried to get into his bed.
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by shapeshifter » 06 Jan 2017, 8:44 pm

You're not far off Die... havent done much hunting apart from goimg out with mates in Queensland... that was in open firlds for bunnies. Here in the forests, have only been out hiking on the trails.. seen a few snakes but you can see them... i havent trudged through grass, shubbery and native bush... Guess I am just wondering what you guys look out for and if its wise to head out at this time of year? Considering on a PLB just in case of snake bite, serious fall or other 'incident'.
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by Gwion » 06 Jan 2017, 8:56 pm

Safety device like PLB is always a good idea if you have or can get one. Knowing how to treat snake bite is also a good idea.

What to look out for??? Ummm,,, snakes! :P

If you do see one, just stop still and let it move off. I have had so many close calls and the snakes usually just move off. Occasionally you have to take evasive action but best bet is just freeze and see what the snake does.
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by shapeshifter » 06 Jan 2017, 9:01 pm

Yeah... guys... its pretty much what I have been looking at...
- Snake 'proof'/resistant gaiters
- How to treat a snake bite
- PLB
- knowing where I am on the map together with GPS back up

And most importantly, just being aware
(Considering taking a mate so that if there is a snake, I would be halving my chance of being bitten! Haha)
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by Gwion » 06 Jan 2017, 9:07 pm

It's the snake you don't see that gets you!

A word of caution: do Not try to scare a snake away. It wight work with some more placid species but a brown snake is just as likely to retaliate rather than retreat.
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Post by shapeshifter » 06 Jan 2017, 9:11 pm

Roger that... I am of the mind to let it be and if it seems agressive slowly back away or do my best to high tail it out of reach of the snake.

However, from readin up in forums and talking to Mr Google, its not often these scenarios happen... right?
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by bladeracer » 06 Jan 2017, 9:12 pm

I wear these all day, every day on the farm when it's warm because of the snakes.
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by shapeshifter » 06 Jan 2017, 9:29 pm

Yeah, I got some decent huntimg boots from when I worked on vinyards a few years ago.. but figured it good get a bit warm.

Better warm feet than a snake bit I guess.
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by Die Judicii » 06 Jan 2017, 9:54 pm

shapeshifter wrote:
And most importantly, just being aware
(Considering taking a mate so that if there is a snake, I would be halving my chance of being bitten! Haha)



:lol: :lol: Your half way there mate,,, just take a mate and tell him to lead.
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by darwindingo » 07 Jan 2017, 1:26 am

A dry bite is a good bite :D !

Btw., snakes don't always deliver venom with every bite as its a valuable commodity, although you should always react as if that they did.... Ps.. a mate would be handy for that test :lol: :drinks:

The best bet is to go real slow in high risk areas and keep your eyes and ears open (Ive been hissed more than once as a warning from a snake that didn't wish to waste his venom on something he couldn't eat)... Slow movement works best when stalking all species that roam the earth ;) ... :thumbsup:

Yep, I love and appreciate snakes if you hadn't already guessed.... Love thy fellow hunter, I'd say (big fan of croc's too btw..)

ALSO, damn I feel like eating some goat now...... :x :)

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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by Gwion » 07 Jan 2017, 6:10 am

Die Judicii wrote:
shapeshifter wrote:
And most importantly, just being aware
(Considering taking a mate so that if there is a snake, I would be halving my chance of being bitten! Haha)



:lol: :lol: Your half way there mate,,, just take a mate and tell him to lead.


The saying goes:
"It's the second through that gets bitten."

Logic being is that the first person doesn't step on the snake an it just waits for them to pass. Just as the snake goes to move off, some othe galloot comes barging through, which is just too much for the snake and it strikes.
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by shapeshifter » 07 Jan 2017, 6:14 am

Makes sense Gwion... Now I don't know who would get bitten... Might have to bring two mates to lead the way...

Oh wait.... just counted my mates... umm... anyone here wanna come out on a hunt soon :P
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by Gwion » 07 Jan 2017, 6:31 am

Haha... :D

Just keep an eye out, move slow, you'll be fine.

Look around on and beside the path.
Take a few steps.
Stop and scan for game.
Repeat.

I nearly took a leak on a tiger snake on Xmas day. Was just about to let it go and notice the snake's tail was in the line of fire. I readjusted my aim and relieved myself while keeping a ver close eye on the snake. It was facing away from me with just its tail out of the ground cover. It was trailing downhill into a culvert. Just as I finished and was zipping up, it shot forward about 6" and I saw it coiling up around what ever little critter was its latest victim.
I warned everyone else that the snake was around and locked the dogs inside. It was about 20m from our backdoor.

Really. You have little to worry about. Just take care and be prepared in case the worst happens.
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by Gwion » 07 Jan 2017, 6:37 am

darwindingo wrote:
ALSO, damn I feel like eating some goat now...... :x :)

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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by Oldbloke » 07 Jan 2017, 8:07 am

I can honestly say I have shot a few in wombat. But must be 25 yrs now. They r still there but in the no go areas.
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by Die Judicii » 07 Jan 2017, 12:44 pm

Gwion wrote:Haha... :D

Just keep an eye out, move slow, you'll be fine.

Look around on and beside the path.
Take a few steps.
Stop and scan for game.
Repeat.

Really. You have little to worry about. Just take care and be prepared in case the worst happens.



Gwion,,,,,,, He's now either gonna have nightmares,,, or won't go hunting till the frosts set in for winter.

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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by shapeshifter » 07 Jan 2017, 3:38 pm

I will get out there on before that... my itch to walk in in the midst of the bush and try to spot game is to strong not to scratch...whether I am still alive when the frost sets in winter is another thing :o

Like Gwion said, be prepared. Have my boots, compression bandages, investing in PLB, ambulance subscription is in date, one mate already hooked up to come out with me... now just need the good cool weather to time in with a free day ;)
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by Die Judicii » 07 Jan 2017, 10:17 pm

I see tonite on the net, the report of the bloke and his disadvantaged son that were both bitten by a tiger snake in their house.
The son was bitten twice on the foot, and the father was bitten once on the calf muscle.
I think it was on the outskirts of Melbourne.
Luckily all bites proved to be "dry bites"

Watch out SS,,,,, they are a comin for yer,,,,,,, :lol:
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by darwindingo » 07 Jan 2017, 11:36 pm

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Take the missus with ya, no one left to tell you when you can go hunting then... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by shapeshifter » 08 Jan 2017, 12:49 am

:lol: thats insane... wow... anyone wanna buy my guns... gotta find a new interest.... scared the bejeezus out of me :lol:
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by Die Judicii » 08 Jan 2017, 10:30 am

Darwin Dingoe,,,,,,,,,,,

Absolute GOLD mate,,,,,,
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by darwindingo » 08 Jan 2017, 11:36 pm

shapeshifter wrote::lol: thats insane... wow... anyone wanna buy my guns... gotta find a new interest.... scared the bejeezus out of me :lol:


Hey, look just to keep you safe N all :D I'll take em of ya hands for free ( You can "owe me one" for saving ya the hassle of selling them and stuff ) I'll help ya out just cause I'm a nice Dingo :lol: :P

Hey Gwion, good news about the deer on your place :thumbsup: should put out some feed to help the numbers grow :thumbsup: ..

Ps.. I'm tempted to come help process the Goats and try a few hundred L of ya brew... :D May as well kill two birds with one stone.. :drinks: :drinks: :D

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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by shapeshifter » 10 Feb 2017, 6:54 pm

Had a day off work today with nothing to do, so thought I would get of my back side and drive through a couple of state forests Happy Hunter recommended... Just to check out the track conditions, terrain, and type of vegetation. Just my luck I have a day off work when its leaning on the heavy side of 30 degrees

I went to Rushworth SF in the morning and Strathbogie SF in the afternoon.... they are two very different types of environments!

Rushworth is fairly flat and easy enough to get around. Got out for a walk and saw some roo's by no signs of goats. No pellets or stripped shrubbery. Checked around a waterhole.... just roo prints :?

If I was a goat I would live in the Strathbogie SF... but as a hunter it would be tough going... chest height bracken and shrubs everywhere in the areas I drove around.

I am going to give both these places a good ol' scout when it cools down a bit.... and see if i can't find some signs of goat life.

OH! Good news... no snakes... maybe next time :silent: :silent: :silent:
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by Oldbloke » 07 Aug 2017, 3:56 pm

shapeshifter wrote:Had a day off work today with nothing to do, so thought I would get of my back side and drive through a couple of state forests Happy Hunter recommended... Just to check out the track conditions, terrain, and type of vegetation. Just my luck I have a day off work when its leaning on the heavy side of 30 degrees

I went to Rushworth SF in the morning and Strathbogie SF in the afternoon.... they are two very different types of environments!

Rushworth is fairly flat and easy enough to get around. Got out for a walk and saw some roo's by no signs of goats. No pellets or stripped shrubbery. Checked around a waterhole.... just roo prints :?

If I was a goat I would live in the Strathbogie SF... but as a hunter it would be tough going... chest height bracken and shrubs everywhere in the areas I drove around.

I am going to give both these places a good ol' scout when it cools down a bit.... and see if i can't find some signs of goat life.

OH! Good news... no snakes... maybe next time :silent: :silent: :silent:


An old thread. But just wondering how you got on there Shapeshifter?
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by Hugh » 09 Sep 2017, 3:45 pm

Around Tallarook a good herd around there.
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by rsj223 » 10 Sep 2017, 11:54 pm

Just saw a mob of about 10 today all white, seen mostly black ones there before, tried to get the dogs to chase them but it was the first time out after an hour and a half drive and they just wanted to run around, no gun to use at the time ( not sighted in)
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by shapeshifter » 23 Sep 2017, 7:12 pm

I have been out a few times with the 30.06 I picked up at the shot show. I figured if I can scout both deer and goats at the same time.

I have been out around Woods Point a couple of times... sheesh its steep country! I saw fresh sign of deer but no animals.

Just came back from around Carey State Forest. Just sae birds and aged deer scat.

Oh well, i will have to keep on trying to bag my first Victorian deer or goat
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Re: Goats in VIC State Forests

Post by shapeshifter » 23 Sep 2017, 7:16 pm

@Hugh @rsj223

I would really appreciate it if you guys could pm me some coordinates of the area where you guys saw the goats.

Iwould love to go and have a look for them!
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