Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Gamerancher » 17 Jan 2018, 5:49 pm

In reply to Oldbloke,
Yes you can, but the 7mm-08 is known for having less felt recoil than .308 Win, ( in a comparable rifle ) and you need a long action ( which some folks seem to avoid ) for 30-06.
That said, I do have a liking for the '06 though, there's still 2 in the safe. :D

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Yeah, it is a bit of a bummer. The Sierra Matchkings I shoot silhouette with went from $48 / 100 up to $90.
Another reason why I just built a 6.5 Creedmoor. I already had 3000 6.5mm Lapua projies on the shelf and can get the ELD's for around $50.
Plus it is definitely easier on post surgery shoulders. ;)
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Oldbloke » 17 Jan 2018, 6:36 pm

Yes, the main down side of the long action is additional weight. But the extra 1/2 inch is in reality is SFA when using.

Has never worried me.
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Lumbajak » 17 Jan 2018, 7:49 pm

grandadbushy wrote:No Gibbo it's a sako in 7mm rem mag I wanted it for bigger stuff but will use it for dogs as well when needed
I don't play around with loads in my rifles I find a projectile and load it likes and that's it
22-250 @ 55gr vmax Benchmark 2 powder ,rem 91/2 large primers and rem brass from new
7mm rem mag 162gr ELD MATCH cci 250 mag primers AR2217 powder but on saying that I am thinking of
moving to 162gr ELD-X if all goes well
My knowledge in other areas of loading for comp shooting is all but nil but I do know my way around my rifles and loading for them
There are lots of people on this forum with loads of knowledge in those areas more than happy to help when its needed

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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Gibbo » 17 Jan 2018, 9:03 pm

Thanks all. Would the lower recoil and ballistic performance of 7mm-08 be worth the while compared to 308? Might have to do some research I am intrigued now!
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Oldbloke » 17 Jan 2018, 9:43 pm

Check em both out like I said. You will find the only real gain will be over about 250meter by the 7-08 over the 308. But yes bullets cost could come into the decision, 30cal will be a lot cheaper.

Ask around but I believe the 110fr bullets in 308 lack in the accuracy stakes. 125s r ok
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by RoginaJack » 19 Jan 2018, 8:56 pm

My 2 cents worth is still for the 243W., Tikka preferably, you'r got the 22mag for bunnies, foxes and cats. The 243w will handle the pigs, foxes and small/medium deer if they cross your path.
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Stix » 21 Jan 2018, 11:09 am

Gibbo wrote:Thanks all. Would the lower recoil and ballistic performance of 7mm-08 be worth the while compared to 308? Might have to do some research I am intrigued now!


Im with Gamerancher...
7-08 is a cracker of an all-rounder...

So from your original question...if you're looking for one all rounder for now, go 7-08...
You'll get your dogs a long way out, & do the deer...!!!
From there, add a 223/22-250 to your kit, then later on add the.243.

I had the same decision making dilemma over a year ago, .243/25-06/.260/7-08/.308 etc...& it took me a year to decide on calibre (mind you i already had .222 & 22-250).

I went 7-08 & glad i did...
If i was in your shoes knowing what i know, id go 7-08 for now... (assuming you reload).
It'll do it all, & its deer legal.
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Rikta » 21 Jan 2018, 4:50 pm

338 lap
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Oldbloke » 21 Jan 2018, 5:54 pm

Rikta wrote:338 lap


For rabbits I'm assuming? :sarcasm:
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Rikta » 22 Jan 2018, 11:45 am

Oldbloke wrote:
Rikta wrote:338 lap


For rabbits I'm assuming? :sarcasm:



Dont be so silly, of course not for rabbits, Mostly just for mice and rats
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Lumbajak » 22 Jan 2018, 6:49 pm

Rikta wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:
Rikta wrote:338 lap


For rabbits I'm assuming? :sarcasm:



Dont be so silly, of course not for rabbits, Mostly just for mice and rats


Hmm might need to get one my 300mag is terrible for ducks....
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Oldbloke » 27 Feb 2018, 7:12 pm

Looks like SA has a severe problem.

Horrific images of sheep guts 'ripped out' highlight SA's wild dog scourge
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-27/s ... ck/9486148
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Daddybang » 27 Feb 2018, 7:44 pm

Was just reading the same article. Unfortunately until the gov gets behind the farmers it won't change. :thumbsdown: :drinks:
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Roo farmer » 27 Feb 2018, 8:18 pm

Daddybang wrote:Was just reading the same article. Unfortunately until the gov gets behind the farmers it won't change. :thumbsdown: :drinks:

Yeah, the government doesn't seem to know where their food comes from.
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by RoginaJack » 28 Feb 2018, 10:24 am

If you're looking to do a bit of Deer hunting too, what about a 270? Just a tad heavy on foxes but what the hell, pelts are worth nix.
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by YoungBuck » 28 Feb 2018, 12:11 pm

Oldbloke wrote:Looks like SA has a severe problem.

Horrific images of sheep guts 'ripped out' highlight SA's wild dog scourge
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-27/s ... ck/9486148

Was reading that too. I know they need a long term solution, but this sort of thing inspires me to take a week off work to go setup camp and help shoot some of the buggers for those farmers.
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Member-Deleted » 28 Feb 2018, 7:47 pm

Yeah Oldbloke you see those pics and they are the whole reason I hunt wild dogs
Seeing a picture of those sheep is one thing standing beside one suffering is a total different ball game it not only
breaks your heart it also breaks the farmers not to mention the poor animals
Wild dogs world wide along with Hyenas are the cruelest killers around they consume part of their catch whilst it is alive
where most other meat eaters choke their victims and the kill is quicker
In saying that the wild pig is not far behind the dogs it is common for them to eat live animals even stay with a cow
until it claves then snatch the calf from under the mother
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Member-Deleted » 28 Feb 2018, 7:53 pm

As far as what caliber for dogs well I use 22-250 but I think any caliber larger than .22 would do I think
what calibers is like beer it all depends on what you like :drinks: :thumbsup:
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Oldbloke » 01 Mar 2018, 8:37 am

Bloody cruel all right.
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by RoginaJack » 01 Mar 2018, 9:52 am

Morning Grandadbushy, don't mind a glass or 2 of Merlow with a venison steak and like the Tikka 243w for dogs... :D
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Member-Deleted » 01 Mar 2018, 11:39 am

G'day Roginajack , Yes mate that sounds nice BEER, STEAK , SLEEP and in that order at my age :lol:
Mate I don't know how many times I have heard the question of what caliber shoots what :lol:
Its like asking what weight hammer to knock in a 2'' nail :roll:
But hey that's what this forum is for so lets not burst its bubble
I like both the 243 and the 22-250 but anything flat and fast your on a winner
But in saying that you get hit by any other large caliber your just as dead
As you know you shoot dogs it's what works for you in what country you shoot
and what purpose ie shooting dogs in traps
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Oldbloke » 02 Mar 2018, 4:24 pm

Mmmm,, my conclusion is anything from 222 and up. But due to size 55grain to 140grain projectiles and the heavier bullets should be soft or HPs rather than hard.
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Member-Deleted » 02 Mar 2018, 4:47 pm

Yeah Oldbloke that's a fair statement
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Stix » 02 Mar 2018, 5:46 pm

Depends who you ask OB...
I ran into a bloke today & had a brief-ish conversation about shooting...
He quickly turned the conversation into one of those "cartridge for certain game" dictatorships...

Apparently a "204 is nothing"--so upon showing the results on bunnies n foxes, he commented i should be using a "decent round like 7-08"...!!! :o :shock: :huh: (my face did exactly this)

Then i said i have one of those but added that i used that for "bigger game like goats"...to which he didnt like my vhoice of projectile--(a light weight expanding proj that shoots in my rifle for goats)...
He suggested i should be using a min of a 160gn'r on goats--i told him goats are small & soft & are NOT red deer...but that didnt prevent him telling me how good he was...
By this point id got the vibe of this fellow--so asked him what he uses on goats &/or what he hunts... (wait for it...)...
Shoots a bit of .22lr & air rifle occasionally at a range...never hunted in his life... :crazy:
He followed me around & continued to insist i take his advice... :lol:
It was funny at first, but soon became pretty annoying as he talked over the top of me...!!!

Normally i invite people out to the club for a shoot...but i told this fellow i dont shoot in any clubs... :clap:
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Member-Deleted » 02 Mar 2018, 5:53 pm

Geez Stix he sounds like our gunlaw makers qualifications and talking over people
Come to think of it did you ask him what he done for a living he may be a pollie in the making
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Daddybang » 02 Mar 2018, 6:00 pm

Stix wrote:Depends who you ask OB...
I ran into a bloke today & had a brief-ish conversation about shooting...
He quickly turned the conversation into one of those "cartridge for certain game" dictatorships...

Apparently a "204 is nothing"--so upon showing the results on bunnies n foxes, he commented i should be using a "decent round like 7-08"...!!! :o :shock: :huh: (my face did exactly this)

Then i said i have one of those but added that i used that for "bigger game like goats"...to which he didnt like my vhoice of projectile--(a light weight expanding proj that shoots in my rifle for goats)...
He suggested i should be using a min of a 160gn'r on goats--i told him goats are small & soft & are NOT red deer...but that didnt prevent him telling me how good he was...
By this point id got the vibe of this fellow--so asked him what he uses on goats &/or what he hunts... (wait for it...)...
Shoots a bit of .22lr & air rifle occasionally at a range...never hunted in his life... :crazy:
He followed me around & continued to insist i take his advice... :lol:
It was funny at first, but soon became pretty annoying as he talked over the top of me...!!!

Normally i invite people out to the club for a shoot...but i told this fellow i dont shoot in any clubs... :clap:


That's just comedy gold!! (Probably not if you are the one he's talking to) :lol: :lol: :lol: :drinks:
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by bigrich » 02 Mar 2018, 6:30 pm

50 BMG for pigs right ? :lol:
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Stix » 02 Mar 2018, 9:36 pm

:lol:
He's unemployed...& actually too stoopid for a pollie...

Yea daddybang...it'd be funny to watch a youtube video of it now...we'd have a good laugh...
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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by Rod_outbak » 03 Mar 2018, 5:34 pm

Most of the dogs we shoot, are from a .223; running either 55gn Nosler BT, Nosler Vamagedden, or Hornady V-Max.
All seem to do the job very well.

Distance-wise; out to around 150 metres.

Beyond that, I'd probably go for something heavier. A .243 running 87Gn V-Max pills would do the job nicely.
A dog isnt anywhere near as heavily built as a pig, and we have rolled a LOT of pigs with 87 V-max pills in the past.

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Re: Which calibre for hunting wild dogs?

Post by SCJ429 » 28 Apr 2018, 10:06 pm

I use a standard Tikka 223 to shoot 80 Bergers which will group under three inches at 500m. The barrel has 1:8 twist.

I use a 22/250 with 55 grain Vmax which knocks down foxes at 400, I am sure it would be equally effective on wild dogs at that distance.
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