Safety of eating wild goats and pigs?

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Re: Safety of eating wild goats and pigs?

Post by bigrich » 27 Nov 2018, 6:54 am

Bent Arrow wrote:
bigpete wrote:Simple way of avoiding Q fever....just take legs and back straps,then you don't have to gut the animals:)


This is pretty much what I do. I know I miss a bit of meat, but not enough to loose sleep over.


Same as I do. Not enough meat on the front legs for the amount of effort to carve up IMHO
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Re: Safety of eating wild goats and pigs?

Post by magnum56 » 27 Nov 2018, 11:21 am

grandadbushy wrote:Nearly all my life I've eaten wild pigs, goats, roo, but mainly pigs you can make bacon, hams all like the domestic ones
When we were boxing pigs we left the heart ,liver and lungs attached to the pig for them to inspect
We were told to look for TB, LEPTO,BRUCELLOSIS, QFEVER All can be caught by breathing the vapour that rushes out when you're dropping the gut out
We were told to wear rubber gloves and something over our mouth and nose when dropping the gut then wash out selves properly when finished
I only know of 3 Brucellosis cases or any other cases of the above diseases around here and it was those who though the didn't need the safety procedure's
We've had more Qfever cases come out of the local abattoir than people eating wild meat
People don't understand that lots of animals that go to the meat works are not disease free they live where the wild ones live only fenced and some get needled for some diseases but I will say the meat works have a very good but not bullet proof way of meat inspection
All my kids have been brought up on wild pig, goat and so on if you are careful and do the appropriate checks there's no reason you won't be ok
I believe all hunters should learn and know the signs and what to look for with wild meat disease but I;m assuming most already know


THIS ^^ is good advice, like Grandadbushy, I have been eating wild pork for decades, I only eat pigs that have been around grain crops/stubble, while they will still eat other things, if they can get at grain and the associated vegetable matter, they will predominately eat this, years ago in the Moree area we had a meat inspector that use to come out hunting with us sometimes, he reckoned that the wild stuff we were processing to eat was cleaner overall than the domestic stuff going through the meat works.

As for wild goat, the same applies for pork, if in doubt throw it out, I reckon goat is better than mutton, unless the mutton is merino that has been raised on saltbush country, I also butcher the odd red deer, I always reckon that meat processed yourself is a better option and taste, it is also a bloody lot cheaper. :drinks:
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Re: Safety of eating wild goats and pigs?

Post by magnum56 » 27 Nov 2018, 11:26 am

bigrich wrote:
Bent Arrow wrote:
bigpete wrote:Simple way of avoiding Q fever....just take legs and back straps,then you don't have to gut the animals:)


This is pretty much what I do. I know I miss a bit of meat, but not enough to loose sleep over.


Same as I do. Not enough meat on the front legs for the amount of effort to carve up IMHO


If you are careful about how you go about, gutting, cleaning the carcase and yourself, there is very little risk, I have been doing it for decades with no problem, while there are cases of people catching diseases from butchering animals, among those that I know, they have caught these from working at meat works.
There is only one thing worse than a green, two of the bludgers.
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Re: Safety of eating wild goats and pigs?

Post by Stix » 27 Nov 2018, 12:16 pm

bigrich wrote:
Bent Arrow wrote:
bigpete wrote:Simple way of avoiding Q fever....just take legs and back straps,then you don't have to gut the animals:)


This is pretty much what I do. I know I miss a bit of meat, but not enough to loose sleep over.


Same as I do. Not enough meat on the front legs for the amount of effort to carve up IMHO


Bludy hell richo-keep em for me mate... :thumbsup: or better still take me with you & ill carry em out...!! :clap:

I dont understand this "not enough meat on fronts" that people think about goats...?
The shoulder meat is bludy beatiful...!!..& very easy to cut off...!!

Sure the front legs dont appear to be a huge hunk of meat, but there is still a decent amount of it... :thumbsup:

They do take up a bit of room if have to carry a few goats worth of legs out, but i just try bone em out there n then if ive knocked too many over....
& they are sure easy enough to bone out on a board once back to camp or home... :thumbsup:

Here is a boned out shoulder/upper front leg, with shanks.
Sometimes i bone out shanks, sometimes cook em bone in for somethin to knaw on after...either way they bludy dynamite.. :thumbsup:
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Boned out shoulder of goat & 2 shanks
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The entire boned out front leg of a decent kid weighs nearly the same as a boned out rear leg-the difference with this goat was around 100 grams less--bugger all in my book... :thumbsup:

Its just the carry out space &/or time to bone out thats any issue...but i rekon its worth it. :thumbsup:
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Re: Safety of eating wild goats and pigs?

Post by grandadbushy » 27 Nov 2018, 1:42 pm

Hey Stix nice looken goat there mate I reckon if you froze it well packed it in ice it would make it over here nicely ;) :) :D :lol: :lol: :thumbsup:
You get a few where you are mate ? We have to go 2-3 hundred klm to get them but there 's plenty well there was last I went before
the dry the ones here the meat gets a little tainty in very dry places other than that they're good eaten :thumbsup: :drinks:
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Re: Safety of eating wild goats and pigs?

Post by Bent Arrow » 27 Nov 2018, 2:12 pm

bigrich wrote:
Bent Arrow wrote:
bigpete wrote:Simple way of avoiding Q fever....just take legs and back straps,then you don't have to gut the animals:)


This is pretty much what I do. I know I miss a bit of meat, but not enough to loose sleep over.


Same as I do. Not enough meat on the front legs for the amount of effort to carve up IMHO


I take the front and back legs, back strap and the neck meat. As Murphy would have it, where I hunt I'm often a fair hike from camp when I nail a couple of goats so the trade off with gutting animals for the extra meat that I then have to carry out isn't very enticing. As Stix said, the front shoulder is a great cut, perhaps even one of my favourites. I'd say there's more meat on a shoulder than a back strap....
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Re: Safety of eating wild goats and pigs?

Post by Stix » 27 Nov 2018, 3:22 pm

Bent Arrow wrote:
bigrich wrote:
Bent Arrow wrote:
bigpete wrote:Simple way of avoiding Q fever....just take legs and back straps,then you don't have to gut the animals:)


This is pretty much what I do. I know I miss a bit of meat, but not enough to loose sleep over.


Same as I do. Not enough meat on the front legs for the amount of effort to carve up IMHO


I take the front and back legs, back strap and the neck meat. As Murphy would have it, where I hunt I'm often a fair hike from camp when I nail a couple of goats so the trade off with gutting animals for the extra meat that I then have to carry out isn't very enticing. As Stix said, the front shoulder is a great cut, perhaps even one of my favourites. I'd say there's more meat on a shoulder than a back strap....


Yep i rekon much more on the shoulder than the strap--but then that could be due to my lack of patience in navigating the spine... :lol:

That shoulder pic i attached earlier, without the shank weighed 750gms...so thats probably near enuf a kilo with shank from a billy kid with no adult teeth...ive never got anywhere near that with a single strap.

Id love to know how do you take the neck BA...? (Obviously cut it off, but im interested in where you start through to finish...)
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Re: Safety of eating wild goats and pigs?

Post by Stix » 27 Nov 2018, 3:31 pm

grandadbushy wrote:Hey Stix nice looken goat there mate I reckon if you froze it well packed it in ice it would make it over here nicely ;) :) :D :lol: :lol: :thumbsup:
You get a few where you are mate ? We have to go 2-3 hundred klm to get them but there 's plenty well there was last I went before
the dry the ones here the meat gets a little tainty in very dry places other than that they're good eaten :thumbsup: :drinks:


Grandad mate...if i had the cash id send you a foam box of it no problems... :thumbsup:

Unfortunately as im stuck in suburbia i have to travel grandad...not to mention im currently struggling for goat property to hunt on...
And i have to travel a few hundred Km's at least... :thumbsdown:

Thats why i take my car fridge & atleast 2 esky's with lots of big ice blocks in case i strike many of the silly spooky-eyed hoofers...i dont like wastig too much.

I know of guys that just leave hundreds of kilo's in the hills.. :roll:
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Re: Safety of eating wild goats and pigs?

Post by bigrich » 27 Nov 2018, 4:11 pm

the 12 volt fridge freezer i bought ,"kings" brand, from a four wheel drive acccessory wharehouse is one of the best investments i've ever made. cost me $560 with a cover as well. as for the front legs stix 'ole mate, im not as accomplished a butcher as you i guess old mate. the last front legs i tried really didn't have much on them . as has been suggested earlier, i try to stay away from gutting out as it lessens Q fever risk. for my tastes, goat and rabbit are definately on the menu, haven't had any success with deer yet. :thumbsup:
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Re: Safety of eating wild goats and pigs?

Post by deanp100 » 27 Nov 2018, 5:14 pm

As an ex dpi meat inspector I can safely say, as I always do, 2 main points that are always raised with eating pigs.
1) it doesn’t matter if a pig is wormy or not. They all are. 99.5 % of parasites are dropped onto the ground when you gut them. There are basically no parasites in the meat.
2) the safety of the meat is not related to the diet. They can eat rotten dead cows all day and it won’t change the safety of the meat. Quality can be affected by diet, but not safety.
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Re: Safety of eating wild goats and pigs?

Post by Smiley » 27 Nov 2018, 7:04 pm

I know a meat inspector who is a slaughterman and runs the local box. He said he has not seen a wild pig carcass yet that he would eat.
I don't know, I'm just sayin.....
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Re: Safety of eating wild goats and pigs?

Post by Stix » 27 Nov 2018, 7:33 pm

Hmmm interesting...very conflicting views on wild pig consumption... :unknown:
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Re: Safety of eating wild goats and pigs?

Post by bigpete » 27 Nov 2018, 7:58 pm

We never used to eat wild pig....till we tried it....then we butchered everyone we shot thereafter
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Re: Safety of eating wild goats and pigs?

Post by Stix » 27 Nov 2018, 8:00 pm

bigrich wrote:the 12 volt fridge freezer i bought ,"kings" brand, from a four wheel drive acccessory wharehouse is one of the best investments i've ever made. cost me $560 with a cover as well. as for the front legs stix 'ole mate, im not as accomplished a butcher as you i guess old mate. the last front legs i tried really didn't have much on them . as has been suggested earlier, i try to stay away from gutting out as it lessens Q fever risk. for my tastes, goat and rabbit are definately on the menu, haven't had any success with deer yet. :thumbsup:


Hey bigrich...yes my fridge is well loved too...!! (Its filthy inside though...& i did say its loved, not looked after :lol: )

On the front legs--mate im no butcher believe me...hell im like the sweedish chef on the muppets except i take five times longer...!!! :oops:
i got no idea what im doing as a butcher. :unknown:
The key points to consider while boning are...
1) follow the bones...
2) constantly run the knife over the steel...
3) every few inches with the knife put some beer in your mouth to make sure its still cold...
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I used to think the same with regard to how much (little) meat is on the front legs of a goat...that is until i boned out & weighed one compared to a boned out back leg, & i was pleasantly surprised... :thumbsup:

As i said before i think the leg is deceiving because of its bulk & 'flatness'... :?

When it comes to lamb, im a fan of the good ol' burnt forequarter chop over the barbi grill, & the front quarter panel & wheel arch of goat dropped in the slow cooker is a cracker :thumbsup: so i keep em when i can. :drinks:
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Re: Safety of eating wild goats and pigs?

Post by deanp100 » 27 Nov 2018, 9:02 pm

Smiley wrote:I know a meat inspector who is a slaughterman and runs the local box. He said he has not seen a wild pig carcass yet that he would eat.
I don't know, I'm just sayin.....

I have eaten heaps.and I am still here. If you know what you are doing it shouldn’t scare you. I haven’t seen an oyster yet that I would eat.
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Re: Safety of eating wild goats and pigs?

Post by deanp100 » 27 Nov 2018, 9:02 pm

Smiley wrote:I know a meat inspector who is a slaughterman and runs the local box. He said he has not seen a wild pig carcass yet that he would eat.
I don't know, I'm just sayin.....

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Re: Safety of eating wild goats and pigs?

Post by deanp100 » 27 Nov 2018, 9:02 pm

Smiley wrote:I know a meat inspector who is a slaughterman and runs the local box. He said he has not seen a wild pig carcass yet that he would eat.
I don't know, I'm just sayin.....

Sorry. Double post
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Re: Safety of eating wild goats and pigs?

Post by Stix » 27 Nov 2018, 9:48 pm

deanp100 wrote:
Smiley wrote:... ...I know a meat inspector who is a slaughterman and said he has not seen a wild pig carcass yet that he would eat......

I have eaten heaps.and I am still here... ... ... I haven’t seen an oyster yet that I would eat.


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