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MP Defends Feral Cats

Post by Bushie » 24 Feb 2017, 7:28 am

12G > Anything else
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Post by Gwion » 24 Feb 2017, 7:43 am

Speechless! The man is out of his mind.
Anyone who claims destructive ferals have equal standing with threatened natives is not truly an animal lover!
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Post by No1Mk3 » 24 Feb 2017, 10:16 am

Nothing new here, usual Vegan inspired gobbledy gook. Same sort of mindless dribble as comes from that NSW wacko outfit that wants to save and protect foxes! But don't forget folks, next time you see a "Sea Shepherd" supporter, that they are radical Vegans also who want a total ban on animal farming not just whale hunting, sustainable or otherwise. Also not too surprising he won a seat in these days of larcenous mercenary politics where Parties will sell their own Grandmothers for a preference deal.
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Post by Gwion » 24 Feb 2017, 10:19 am

I know some people who have crewed for Sea Shepard in the past and they don't fit that description in the least.
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Post by Bushie » 24 Feb 2017, 10:37 am

Absolute joke of an MP
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Post by duncan61 » 24 Feb 2017, 11:53 am

I can see where his mindset is.However impractical.At least the cat issue is being addressed not shoved under the carpet as it has been.Once again we need that middle ground.Farmers should not totally clear the land for sheep/cattle which is mainly exported.We had a fatality here in the west where the ag guy was being an over bearing pratt and the farmer shot him dead over clearing some bush.Controlling introduced species has to be done the best and most economical way as always it is shooting at night.The factory that used to take my roos did fox baits and every few years DPaW would come up with a new type of wonder bait however they always revert back to kangaroo baits with 1080 dropped from a plane,I am not sure if cats take baits as they are very good at killing live birds/animals.I shot heaps on Wooramel station when I was there
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Post by duncan61 » 24 Feb 2017, 11:55 am

P.S. lets not get personal over someones opinion he may have a domestic cat that is cool as and thinks they are all like that
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Post by No1Mk3 » 24 Feb 2017, 12:13 pm

G'day Gwion,
Not radical themselves perhaps, but they support an organization the most certainly is. To Crew on any vessel, you will eat a Vegan diet at all times. Sea Shepherd actively oppose not only whaling by Japan in Antarctic waters but also sustainable, traditional longboat whaling by Faroese, as well as fishing of all types including recreational fishing. This is, after all, the Vegan philosophy of using nothing whatsoever of any animal, at least what they define as an animal. Senior members of the organization are also heavily involved in funding and supporting the terrorist mob Animal Liberation Front.
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Post by duncan61 » 24 Feb 2017, 12:24 pm

I seen the documentry where the Sea Shepherd goes somewhere to stop the grind.Where they herd the small whales onto shore and kill them.The main organisers of the grind tried to explain to Sea Shepherd how and why they do it but the antis ears were closed and they tried to get in the way but it happened anyway.These people live on the proceeds of whaling for the whole winter Who are these hippies trying to stop it.The doco was pro Sea Shepherd and when the main guy joined them the cult worship was a bit eerie
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Post by Gwion » 24 Feb 2017, 12:33 pm

No1Mk3 wrote:G'day Gwion,
Not radical themselves perhaps, but they support an organization the most certainly is. To Crew on any vessel, you will eat a Vegan diet at all times. Sea Shepherd actively oppose not only whaling by Japan in Antarctic waters but also sustainable, traditional longboat whaling by Faroese, as well as fishing of all types including recreational fishing. This is, after all, the Vegan philosophy of using nothing whatsoever of any animal, at least what they define as an animal. Senior members of the organization are also heavily involved in funding and supporting the terrorist mob Animal Liberation Front.


Wasn't aware of these things. To be honest, i never asked much about it. Was always like, "oh, you crewed for Sea Shepherd, cool..."
Mind you, these people would agree that native animals are more important than feral cats and would have no qualm with feral cats being destroyed.

I'm sort of with Duncan. A balance needs to be struck.
Whaling is pointless and huge super trawlers are just depleting the oceans' fish stocks, which is completely unsustainable. Even commercial fishing can be undertaken in a responsible and sustainable manner.
Same with the commercial meat industry. We all need to eat and there is nothing wrong with eating meat but the rapid increase in meat consumption over the past 50 years id solely driven my corporate interests. It's not about feeding more people, its about selling more product, regardless of long term impacts.

Somewhere between veganism and pure carnivorism driven by corporate greed there is a balance where we should be aiming for.
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Post by Elmer » 24 Feb 2017, 4:04 pm

Too many drugs I reckon.
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Post by Gamerancher » 24 Feb 2017, 5:17 pm

I went to a bar/restaurant on docks in Hobart a couple of years ago. Had the misfortune of being seated at a table next to the crew of a Sea Shepherd vessel, ( docked alongside ) . They were just back from a successful "campaign" and were living it up, and drinking it up, large, there would have been 30 odd in the group and the entire "tab" was booked up to Sea Shepherd.
I wonder if the feel-gooders of the "Green because it's trendy" " save gay whales" brigade realized their donations were being used for nothing more than a piss-up, they would continue to contribute? :unknown:
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Post by wrenchman » 25 Feb 2017, 2:43 am

they had a tv show here but stopped it becouse it was showing them doing things that were big time against the law its why the captain is not on his boat any more
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Post by bigfellascott » 25 Feb 2017, 5:59 am

Is that the "Trap and Neuter and release" twat? last I looked cats weren't trying to f*** the natives! how the hell does neutering cats stop them from destroying the natives?
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Post by Gwion » 25 Feb 2017, 7:01 am

Yes it is.
A complete moron of monumental proportions.
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Post by Bills Shed » 25 Feb 2017, 7:07 am

No1Mk3 wrote: next time you see a "Sea Shepherd" supporter, that they are radical Vegans also who want a total ban on animal farming not just whale hunting, sustainable or otherwise..


This is a very general statement! Have you met any of the Sea Shepard crew? You are very misguided there.

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Post by Bills Shed » 25 Feb 2017, 7:08 am

No1Mk3 wrote: next time you see a "Sea Shepherd" supporter, that they are radical Vegans also who want a total ban on animal farming not just whale hunting, sustainable or otherwise..


This is a very general statement! Have you met any of the Sea Shepard crew? You are very misguided there.

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Post by Gwion » 25 Feb 2017, 7:13 am

Bills Shed wrote:
No1Mk3 wrote: next time you see a "Sea Shepherd" supporter, that they are radical Vegans also who want a total ban on animal farming not just whale hunting, sustainable or otherwise..


This is a very general statement! Have you met any of the Sea Shepard crew? You are very misguided there.

Bill


I should add to my previous reply on this that I and many many people I know "support" the Sea Shepard's efforts against whaling and illegal fishing and none of us fit the discription above.
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Post by wrenchman » 25 Feb 2017, 9:45 am

with all the feral cats you guys have you should have more chinese food places
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Post by Gamerancher » 25 Feb 2017, 2:02 pm

There's at least one in every town, they're doing their bit. :lol:
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Post by duncan61 » 25 Feb 2017, 2:59 pm

Do you have a feral cat problem in the states or do the coyotes and cougers get em all
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Post by bigfellascott » 25 Feb 2017, 4:06 pm

What we need to do is get a heap of feral cats and drop em at this ****** place and let him deal with em and keep doing it over and over again, I love to see how he reacts to something like that continuously happening.
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Post by on_one_wheel » 25 Feb 2017, 6:49 pm

It's obviously suffering from some kind of undiagnosed mental disorder.
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Post by Oldbloke » 25 Feb 2017, 9:06 pm

Nutty as a fruit cake. :lol:
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Post by wrenchman » 26 Feb 2017, 10:42 am

no it seams like every thing eats them here i have seen hawks kill them and eat them.
A guy i work with had a possum killing his kids cats
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Post by Sydor » 26 Feb 2017, 12:33 pm

Gwion wrote:Same with the commercial meat industry. We all need to eat and there is nothing wrong with eating meat but the rapid increase in meat consumption over the past 50 years id solely driven my corporate interests.


I thought is was because there more people on the planet, and more people who can afford meat due to ample supply.
And that those people live do longer and healthier due to the better nutrition.
Reducing the supply would reverse that trend. Would you like that outcome?
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Post by Gwion » 26 Feb 2017, 2:25 pm

Sydor wrote:
Gwion wrote:Same with the commercial meat industry. We all need to eat and there is nothing wrong with eating meat but the rapid increase in meat consumption over the past 50 years id solely driven my corporate interests.


I thought is was because there more people on the planet, and more people who can afford meat due to ample supply.
And that those people live do longer and healthier due to the better nutrition.
Reducing the supply would reverse that trend. Would you like that outcome?


Nope. Meat eating habits have changed significantly in the past 50 years and it is driven by commercialisation.

Many studies and statistics are outlined in a doco called 'Cowspiricy'. It's quite an interesting show. Yes, yes. It promotes veganism but has some very insightful info on the cause of the meat industry boom as well as it effects on the planet.

Another good doco series is "the Men Who Made Us....." series (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2cxvf ... f-3_school)(https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B894f_Bzvp4). It outlines very clearly and with historical accuracy how our society has been engineered over the past 50 years or so to be ever more consumerist.

I've got nothing against eating meat. I grow and slaughter my own livestock but the amount of meat we eat is not making us healthier, it is actually causing significant health problems, especially in the wider western world. Along with that are significant environmental impacts of an ever expanding meat industry. This is all driven by a solely profit based system with none of the altruistic values of improving standards of living you seem to believe it it has.

So, I don't think we need to all be before or vegan. Nor do we need to completely irradicate the meat industry, as some promote. I do, however, think that we don't need to eat anywhere near as much meat as we do.
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Post by Oldbloke » 26 Feb 2017, 6:02 pm

Yep, I love it, but we eat too much meat. Along with a few other foods like sugar and salt.
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Post by andreweden » 26 Feb 2017, 8:42 pm

Not about feral cats, but we do seem to have slid off topic a little. Ex vegan hunter! http://www.utne.com/environment/ex-vega ... 0z13jazros
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Post by RoginaJack » 27 Feb 2017, 9:13 pm

I think the following quote by the MP sums it up -
Instead of addressing the damage done by cats, he said the best way to protect native species was to “end land clearing, phase out animal agriculture and re-vegetate and re-afforest marginal land currently being used for sheep and cattle farming.”
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AND I feel it's to phase out meat eating and convert all to Vegans. :crazy:
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