A little too much power.

[juststarting]

Coincidentally, own an 8mm (.329) that eats 240gr bullets

[SCJ429]

I have used a 416 Rigby on foxes and every time the bullet has exited, through and through. Not once has the fox run off, believe it or not. Why, because I like shooting the Rigby. It sounds reasonable to me that if you saw a fox while holding a 30.06, that you would use it. A 243 is more than you need for a fox but plenty have been used to knock them over.

[deye243]

well as someone that has been shooting on big property's for a long time I will say this , if you think you will get on any property
I shoot on think again . you think a 30 cal pill don't bounce like a rubber ball then you are an idiot no matter if it is a 110 or a 180
they bounce like a super ball . in fact anything over 6mm under 300 yards is a problem .

OK don't believe me ...... then get off ya butt and go and test like I did 20 years ago

[marksman]

I've been guilty of shooting foxes with my 30-06
guts them for you at the same time
its when a farmer has asked me to go through a bluegum forest he has looking for pigs he has seen in the area
it is not something I would normally use for foxes

[tom604]

well as someone that has been shooting on big property's for a long time I will say this , if you think you will get on any property
I shoot on think again . you think a 30 cal pill don't bounce like a rubber ball then you are an idiot no matter if it is a 110 or a 180
they bounce like a super ball . in fact anything under 6mm under 300 yards is a problem .

OK don't believe me ...... then get off ya butt and go and test like I did 20 years ago

what test shoot at rocks? water? every now and then you will get that old Irishman (rick o shea) but bounce like a rubber ball?

it's shed most of its energy when it hit (whatever it was,fox, rock) deformed and not flying straight, its not traveling that far (not sure how far but it would not be much more than two hundred meters) water is another matter but it skips not bounce's

[Rod_outbak]

For me; I've never understood the worry people have about being "over-gunned".
[I dont shoot in close to other people, so worrying about neighbours doesnt come up much.]
Also; the type of projectile used will have a huge effect on how far it goes after impact.
Not many varmint projectiles (which I use for 90% of my shooting these days) will fly very far after even a slight impact.
Likely a very different story for FMJ..

For most of my shooting, I dont walk out of the house with the intention of hunting one particular type of animal. As a result, I am inclined to take a firearm that will nail anything I am likely to encounter.
If I could only take one firearm, and had to choose between the .223 and a 30-06, and I thought I might see goats or pigs, I'd be taking the '06 with some 130-150gn projectiles. If I knew for certain I'm only going to see cats, rabbits and maybe a fox, I might take the .223, but the possibility is always there that I might see a pig or goat, so I'd prefer some a little heavier, with slightly longer legs on it.
(And YES; we do shoot a LOT of pigs with a .223, but I'd prefer a .243 or larger if I have the choice)

As an owner/manager of a large grazing property, I can say I dont vet what calibre firearm people bring onto the place for hunting.
As long as they arent leaving animals injured and suffering needlessly, I'm fine with it.

Most of the roos we've shot on this place have been nailed with either a .260 or a .308, even though we have a .223 and use it most days.
I'm more concerned about people embarking on a pig/fox/cat/goat/dingo hunt with a .22LR, than I am if they have a .416 Taylor.

ANY projectile can travel further than the intended target; safe practices require that shooters dont shoot in directions that have a high likelihood of a). hitting valuable infastructure (tanks, sheds, machinery etc), or b). shooting in the direction of occupied dwellings, or c). in a direction where there is likely to be people or livestock within effective range of the weapon.

Something of an irony, that under normal shooting conditions, gravity dictates that a .416 will likely come to a stop long before a .223...

Elder brother shot a cane toad with a .303 Brit running 180Hp projectiles one night; certainly did the job as far as nailing a feral! Front end of the toad made it about 60 feet into the air, before landing!

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G'day deye243
I was wondering what you meant by bullet bounce I've heard of redirection of projectiles, skip, deflection, and as old mate said
the old Irishman ( rick o shea ) but bounce , no
To bounce, it would have to recoil on itself as in bouncing a ball and at only 100yds it would not be a bounce it would be a
rick o shea , deflection or skip

[Daddybang]

Elder brother shot a cane toad with a .303 Brit running 180Hp projectiles one night; certainly did the job as far as nailing a feral! Front end of the toad made it about 60 feet into the air, before landing!

Love it!!!!

[bigrich]

Well I feel better about using 156gr 6.5x55 on goats now

[Member-Deleted]

Out the other day sitting near a creek just off a scrub line waiting for scrubbers to come down the spur of a hill
not far about 30m from me a rat was running from the creek to a pumpkin vine about 8mtrs of clean ground between vine and creek
he would stop on the creek bank until he got game and he'd stop half way and roll in the dirt for a few minutes then into the vine
then run back to the creek with something he was probably getting stores for winter namely pumpkin
This went on up til near dusk so I was ready to leave and go home when he sat there looking at me so I levelled the 7mm mag
And yes you guessed it I broadsided him with a 168gr vld didn't look for bits
I think the A little bit too much power is catching

[pedro4977]

I once saw a bloke shoot a very nasty rabid and obviously psychopathic hare with a .375 h&h. Very humane kill and quite spectacular.
He was quite wealthy I might add

[Rod_outbak]

About 2 months back, there was a nasty incident here, where a member of the Genus 'Corvus' forgot to keeping one eye on the house, whilst pecking on an old roo carcass.
My mate Corbey was barely 80 metres distant, but the arrogant prick thought he was something special...

Score one for the Ruger Precision Rifle(.308); running 130Gn Federal Vital-Shoks...
[Not that it was a very hard shot, but it WAS very satisfying...]

I have NEVER seen a Corbey come apart like that! He was chopped into 8 distinct pieces, like a mad butcher had upped him with a chopper to prep him for stir-fry.
Very high Giggle-factor...
And a puff of black feathers thrown into the morning breeze? Very picture-worthy.
[The rest of the Corbeys held an emergency Stop-Work meeting in a tree ~2 kms from the house, after departing the scene of the 'accident' at near-supersonic speeds. Quite a lot of discussion, and no-one was prepared to return to work that day...]

They are a bloody cruel animal; very happy to nail them whenever I get the chance.

[Die Judicii]

Pedro beat me to it,,,,,,,,,,,,
I was musing about trying the .375 H+H Magnum on a crow or hare.

The ol crow lights up well when you hittem with 4,000 fps of 22/250 HPs

[brett1868]

I've shot cats with 798gr HP's from a 50BMG....

[darwindingo]

I've shot cats with 798gr HP's from a 50BMG....

798gr is that enough to properly take care of a puss* .. Just looking at the gram conversion mate... ...

[Rod_outbak]

A roo-shooter mate of mine was grading some property roads for us a few years back.
Greg used to bring his .416 Taylor with him, in case he saw anything while grading.

I made the mistake of letting him talk me into shooting it one day; using one of his so-called 'Pussy' loads.
Yeeaahhhh...freaking thing kicked like a mule, and the scope tried to ram my sunglasses into my head.
However, the pigeon I was aiming at; vaporised...

At least there was little chance any pigs/dogs/cats/rabbits were going to get away, if he encountered them...