Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

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Re: Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

Post by Oldbloke » 20 Feb 2018, 8:45 pm

Here it is.

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I have only tried it once, just recently on a fox tail to try it. It seemed to work OK. Next skin goes in. :thumbsup:
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Re: Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

Post by Stix » 21 Feb 2018, 6:19 pm

Thanks OB...!!
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Re: Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

Post by Oldbloke » 22 Feb 2018, 7:34 am

That's OK let us know how it goes.

Looks to me the fleshing is the hardest part.
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Post by sungazer » 22 Feb 2018, 7:44 am

I am using the Gerni or equiv and getting good results on Roo skins also on dear could never have done that by hand. I dont know how they did it. I think there is some information that has not been handed down in that area. The old blokes kept it a trade secret and it has gone to the grave.

When I was a kid I was doing Rabbits and reading books on how to do it and finally found one that gave the instructions that prepared the membrane to a point where it could be peeled off rather than scraped. I have forgotten how to do it though.
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Post by Daddybang » 22 Feb 2018, 7:52 am

We used a small orbital sander to flesh . probably not good for rabbit and thinner skins but works for the thicker ones!! :drinks:
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Re: Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

Post by Stix » 22 Feb 2018, 10:03 am

Daddybang wrote:Pm sent :drinks:


Hi Daddybang...if this was meant for me ive not received it mate...
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Post by Daddybang » 22 Feb 2018, 10:22 am

Not sure where that's gone. It's not in any of my folders! :lol: :lol:
Wasn't anything important just wanted to let ya know if ya wanted the first chapter of that book dealing with hide prep and tanning recipies I can scan and send it email or snail mail. No worries if ya don't want it :thumbsup: :drinks:
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Post by sungazer » 22 Feb 2018, 10:27 am

If you have the Alum salt recipe I would be interested. I have used one once or twice before and now after using the commercial product I am going to go back to trying that now I have some got better at some of the other steps
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Post by Stix » 22 Feb 2018, 10:37 am

FFAAARKKK!!!
i just spent over 20 mins writing an update on this thread...pressed the wrong button on this stupid piece of sh#t samaung fone & its all gone...!!!
Im so angry--f@#k samsung...!!!!!

The c#@t of a fone updates itself & makes changes that makes the fone different & run much slower...
& im sick of google asking for permission to record data from my fone every time i post a pic...
These controlling A-holes...dam them...!!!!!

Gees man...
Sorry folks...i had to vent...
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Post by Stix » 22 Feb 2018, 10:42 am

Thanks daddybang...
Obviously i have issues with the technology too...!!!
Ive had many posts late last year not hit the airwaves for some reason, even after seeing the page saying "your message has been sucessfully sent"...so im sure its sometimes this site...

Re the book--yea it looks like a book id be keen to read, or even have on the shelf...

Scanned copy of those pages should be ok...
Ill pm you my email later...

Appreciate it mate...!
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Re: Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

Post by Stix » 22 Feb 2018, 10:44 am

Sungazer, ive found a couple of versions, ill pm a link to you a bit later...
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Post by Daddybang » 22 Feb 2018, 10:44 am

Hahaha!! I understand fully stix all I have at home is a Samsung phone :lol: :drinks:
Sungazer the book has several different recipes using alum and chromium and also sulphuric acid.if ya pm me an email I can get it scanned first thing tomorrow morning and send it all thru :thumbsup: :drinks:
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Re: Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

Post by Stix » 22 Feb 2018, 11:39 am

Righto...deep breath & try again...

The day i salted it & started this thread, i ended up putting the salted skin in the freezer...

I did notice when folding it up, there was a fair bit of liquid run out the pelt through the bullet hole (entry right flank just behind shoulder-no exit).

The liquid, a pink colour very similar to what people mistake for "blood" that seeps from a rare cooked steak when resting, had run out onto the table & 'wetted' a fair chunk of fur (probably a good 5" patch).
You can see the pink colour under the salt in this pic...
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From memory on a youtube vid a yank did, he mentions the pink colour under the salt on his hides is a bacteria, & he wasnt too worried about it, however im guessing unlike this pelt, his weren't left for 36+hrs before being salted.

Im assuming this is the bacteria that will make the fur slip, so i hold grave fears this pelt is ruined.
This pink colour was not at all on the skin when i pulled it out of the fridge to salt it, so if it is the bacteria, its multiplied at an unbelievable rate once out of the fridge.

I was going to buy a decent tanning kit, but given i may loose the fur, ill do this one the cheap way...

Ive managed to track down this "alum" stuff at bunnings so ill give it a crack.

Its a shame i wasnt better organised with salt, because this fur really is unbelievable to touch...as soft, if not softer than a baby bunny...
And in my tiredness at 2.30am when skinning the mog, ive missed some of the back left leg...
Ah well...see how it goes...

So im going to buy a 20kg bag & container of finer table salt & leave them on each farm from now on...

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Re: Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

Post by Oldbloke » 22 Feb 2018, 2:36 pm

"So im going to buy a 20kg bag & container of finer table salt & leave them on each farm from now on.."

My understanding is the finer grades of salt are better. But the coarse will do the job if that's all you have.

The pink MAY be the same algae that often grows in salt lakes. Only way to tell though would be a microscope. It's a primitive type of plant. Only time will tell.
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Re: Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

Post by Daddybang » 22 Feb 2018, 3:44 pm

Oldbloke wrote:"So im going to buy a 20kg bag & container of finer table salt & leave them on each farm from now on.."

My understanding is the finer grades of salt are better. But the coarse will do the job if that's all you have.
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I brought a big bag of coarse salt (cause I'm a tightarse :lol: ) and used a mortar and pestle to grind it up. A good job to do whilst havin a coldie! :lol: :drinks:
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Re: Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

Post by Oldbloke » 22 Feb 2018, 4:41 pm

" I brought a big bag of coarse salt (cause I'm a tightarse :lol: ) and used a mortar and pestle to grind it up. A good job to do whilst havin a coldie! :lol: :drinks:

Why not. Good excuse for a beer. I'll remember that.
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Re: Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

Post by bladeracer » 22 Feb 2018, 4:44 pm

Daddybang wrote:We did that kid by scraping when it was fresh.
Pinned it out flesh side up.
Scraped as much flesh off as we could(paint scraper worked)
Then applied a thick layer of salt (as sungazer said)
Left it pinned out in a shady spot for a week reapply salt everyday (just over the old)
Then scraped most of the salt off before dropping in the tanning solution.
Hope this helps ya stix. :drinks:


I did the same, except I used alum powder. I have no idea why so I guess I was working from somebody else's advice :-)
Never had any knocked back from the place I was selling them to though so it must've worked okay. I did keep a couple for a few years but they disappeared when I moved to WA.
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Re: Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

Post by Stix » 22 Feb 2018, 5:56 pm

Oldbloke wrote:"So im going to buy a 20kg bag & container of finer table salt & leave them on each farm from now on.."

My understanding is the finer grades of salt are better. But the coarse will do the job if that's all you have.

The pink MAY be the same algae that often grows in salt lakes. Only way to tell though would be a microscope. It's a primitive type of plant. Only time will tell.


The reason for the coarse stuff OB is because im like Daddybang...a tightarse...!!!...a 20kg bag for niks mate...

As i said, ill also have a container of the finer stuff on hand...
I gave this one a sprinkle of fine salt, & used it around the edges & head to ensure contact it the tight spots... :)
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