Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

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Re: Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

Post by Stix » 22 Feb 2018, 5:58 pm

Daddybang wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:"So im going to buy a 20kg bag & container of finer table salt & leave them on each farm from now on.."

My understanding is the finer grades of salt are better. But the coarse will do the job if that's all you have.
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I brought a big bag of coarse salt (cause I'm a tightarse :lol: ) and used a mortar and pestle to grind it up. A good job to do whilst havin a coldie! :lol: :drinks:


Think ill have to come on up there DB...id love a lifestyle where i had time to buy cheap salt & crush it in small amounts while drinking beer... :drinks:
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Re: Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

Post by Daddybang » 22 Feb 2018, 6:15 pm

Hey blade there's been a few of the fellas that have suggested the alum so I'll have to give it a go :thumbsup: I've just started a heap of messmate gum bark steeping to extract the tannin so that will be interesting to see if it works! :drinks:

Stix it's a hell of a lifestyle up this way. We like to call it "runnin on cape time" :lol: :drinks:
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Re: Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

Post by bladeracer » 22 Feb 2018, 6:24 pm

bladeracer wrote:I did the same, except I used alum powder. I have no idea why so I guess I was working from somebody else's advice :-)
Never had any knocked back from the place I was selling them to though so it must've worked okay. I did keep a couple for a few years but they disappeared when I moved to WA.


Thinking about it now I think the buyers advised me how they wanted the skins treated. I can remember wandering around a number of places to find out how to make a return on the foxes I was shooting. I think the place I was selling to was in Murray Bridge, although I was dealing with a rep based in Strathalbyn most of the time.
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Re: Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

Post by Daddybang » 23 Feb 2018, 11:58 am

Hey sungazer and old bloke I sent the emails thru this morning hope they are of use fellas :D :drinks:
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Post by sungazer » 23 Feb 2018, 1:29 pm

Thanks got it. I was just having a look in a book I have. All pretty old formulas as well most are paste based using Alum salt and or acids. The only one that is a pure liquid where you can just put the hide in says it will leave the hide much more firm, crisp and will need more breaking in.
Not sure what I will have a go at next. I do prefer the easy way I have certainly got a lot lazier than our fore fathers. :D
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Post by Stix » 23 Feb 2018, 3:24 pm

Daddybang wrote:Hey sungazer and old bloke I sent the emails thru this morning hope they are of use fellas :D :drinks:


Hey Daddybang...i finally remembered to PM my email to you...any chance you can send that stuff through this way too...? :unknown: :)
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Post by Daddybang » 23 Feb 2018, 4:42 pm

Just emailed ya stix :thumbsup: :drinks:
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Re: Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

Post by Stix » 23 Feb 2018, 5:32 pm

Hey Oldbloke...

I just noticed your recipe on this thread...
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9067&start=18

You have said the powdered parts are in "pounds", ive found 2 other similar recipes on the net that for similar volume of water say the powdered volumes in "cups"...

This is a HUGE difference,...have you used this/either of these recipes mate...?

Or anyone else for that matter...???
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Post by Oldbloke » 23 Feb 2018, 7:42 pm

Stix wrote:Hey Oldbloke...

I just noticed your recipe on this thread...
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9067&start=18

You have said the powdered parts are in "pounds", ive found 2 other similar recipes on the net that for similar volume of water say the powdered volumes in "cups"...

This is a HUGE difference,...have you used this/either of these recipes mate...?

Or anyone else for that matter...???



I just converted the pounds and gallons to kgs and litres. You quickly come up with some recipes /ratios. And bobs your uncle. I would post it but I'm not home for a few days and it's on my laptop.
As I said earlier, just did a small test on a fox tail.
Skinned it.
Salted for a few days (didn't flesh it)
In the alum/salt solution for about five dsys
Dried it out by hanging on the line
Oiled it with neatsfoot oil.

Seemed to come up OK & gave to my grand daughter who had been pestering me.

Next chance I get going to go a full skin.

I'll post the converted recipes late next week. Alum and salt is cheap and easy that's why I tried it.
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Post by Stix » 23 Feb 2018, 8:07 pm

Thanks OB...
But are you sure you dissolved 2kg's of alum in 3-4 litres of water...?

All other recipes i can find say 1-2.5 CUPS of alum in 3-4 ltrs of water...

???
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Post by Oldbloke » 24 Feb 2018, 8:31 am

Stix wrote:Thanks OB...
But are you sure you dissolved 2kg's of alum in 3-4 litres of water...?

All other recipes i can find say 1-2.5 CUPS of alum in 3-4 ltrs of water...

???


Nowhere near that! May be 200 grams of alum
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Re: Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

Post by Oldbloke » 24 Feb 2018, 8:53 am

So assuming you want to make 1 gallon. So just divide everything by 4 and convert.

Water. 1 gallon = about. 4 litres water
Salt. 2.5 lb div x 4 = .6lb = 270 grams of salt
Alum. 1 lb div x 4 =.25lb = 115 grams of alum

US and English gallons are not the same. UK is a bit over 4 litres & US under 4 litres . So 4 is near enough. If you want make salt 300g and alum 130g. I figure stronger better than weaker solution.
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Re: Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

Post by Stix » 24 Feb 2018, 10:39 am

Good one OB... :thumbsup:

I feel a bit of a d1ck...

I scribbled down about 4 or 5 different recipe's in a hurry, it got pretty messy when writing yours down so ive read MY OWN writing of YOUR posted recipie VERY wrong... :oops:

The recipe in Daddybangs book is quite different...a lot less alum by volume, & nearly double the salt while also adding sulphuric acid in equal volume to alum... (unless my quick maths is up the creek again)...

Id be interested in your conversion of the figures...
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Post by Oldbloke » 24 Feb 2018, 10:43 am

As I said only tried it once. So no guarantee. But it seems popular. There must be dozens of recipes out there.

Just try one. Oh, leave it outside but under cover. Just the fox tail for 5 days made my man cave stink for about 5 weeks. :lol: keeps the Mrs out but. :thumbsup:
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Post by Oldbloke » 02 Mar 2018, 4:52 pm

I was in the big green shed today. I noticed pool salt for $9.95 for 25kg. It was almost as fine as table salt. So perfect for skins.
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Post by Oldbloke » 02 Mar 2018, 4:55 pm

I was in the big green shed today. I noticed pool salt for $9.95 for 25kg. It was almost as fine as table salt. So perfect for skins.

Good for your steak too. :lol:
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Re: Tanning/Initial Tanning Prep...

Post by Stix » 02 Mar 2018, 5:07 pm

Ah gees i missed that...mine was <$8 for 20kg of coarse salt...
Ill have a look next im there...thanks for the heads up OB. :thumbsup:

By the way...ive got 2 bunny skins in buckets with 2 different alum recipes...
They've been in since Sunday...you rekon thats long enough...?

Ill let you know how they shape up...
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Post by Oldbloke » 02 Mar 2018, 5:24 pm

Stix wrote:
By the way...ive got 2 bunny skins in buckets with 2 different alum recipes...
They've been in since Sunday...you rekon thats long enough...?

Ill let you know how they shape up...


Just an arm chair expert but all Indicatiins would be it's plenty.
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