Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by Oldbloke » 15 Apr 2018, 12:28 am

The couple I shot went down with 30-06 180gr interlocks. Bloody lucky to get those :lol:
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by tanny » 19 Apr 2019, 7:48 pm

in the same boat at the moment and i am going 7mm RM
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by TassieTiger » 20 Apr 2019, 4:03 pm

Good move. Only ppl who really know what they are doing should be allowed an 06 lol.

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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by duncan61 » 20 Apr 2019, 4:14 pm

Its human nature to be supportive of what we own.I have a 7mm Rem Mag but have used a 30/06 and there is nothing wrong with either
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by TassieTiger » 20 Apr 2019, 5:44 pm

It’s sarcasm Dunc.
I have an affinity for the 06 that makes zero sense (maybe a previous life?), but If hunting was my only game I’d have a 7mm or 300wm any day of the week...
Chamberings can be matters of the “heart” more so than the head...probably why there are so many different ones available, eh?
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by duncan61 » 20 Apr 2019, 8:30 pm

Yes I got that its hard to express emotion on a forum.Since I have been on this forum I have learned so much about different chamberings.
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by SCJ429 » 23 Apr 2019, 8:44 pm

A 300 RUM or 300 Lapua calls to me more than the 30/06. Too many grumpy old farts own the 06.
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by Stix » 23 Apr 2019, 9:29 pm

Right-oh...

You lit the fuse Tas...now watch it go oorff...!!


.....204....
...32 gr ballistic tip...
....100 yds...
...Shot to the back of the head at the base of the skull...

...Keep ALL the meat..yummo... :clap: : ...skin out for an impeccable tanned hide... :clap: : ...AND...keep the skull as a trophy... :clap:

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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by Member-Deleted » 23 Apr 2019, 11:10 pm

Yeah Stix what ever takes their fancy you ever heard of the old sayings ''Over gunned or Under gunned '' no such thing I knew an old bloke that shot scrubbers with a sawn off .22 single shot rifle rarely didn't work he also had a sawn off 303 but he reckon it kicked too much had to get off his horse to pick it up a couple of times it jumped out of his hand when he fired it :thumbsup:
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by TassieTiger » 24 Apr 2019, 8:18 am

Stix wrote:Right-oh...

You lit the fuse Tas...now watch it go oorff...!!


.....204....
...32 gr ballistic tip...
....100 yds...
...Shot to the back of the head at the base of the skull...

...Keep ALL the meat..yummo... :clap: : ...skin out for an impeccable tanned hide... :clap: : ...AND...keep the skull as a trophy... :clap:

Beawdy Newk...!!... :thumbsup:


Okay then...you started it!
wooden box, bit of 2x1 and a piece of string and a few grain pellets :-)...

Lift box, find live too. Get out knife. Grab roo. Roo fights back...pushes you on box. Trip over. Pick up knife, throw it at roo. Miss.
Go to Ute. Get 30-06. Shoot the bastard at 400m. No head. Keep legs and straps. Reset box.
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by Stix » 24 Apr 2019, 9:15 am

TassieTiger wrote:
Stix wrote:Right-oh...

You lit the fuse Tas...now watch it go oorff...!!


.....204....
...32 gr ballistic tip...
....100 yds...
...Shot to the back of the head at the base of the skull...

...Keep ALL the meat..yummo... :clap: : ...skin out for an impeccable tanned hide... :clap: : ...AND...keep the skull as a trophy... :clap:

Beawdy Newk...!!... :thumbsup:


Okay then...you started it!
wooden box, bit of 2x1 and a piece of string and a few grain pellets :-)...

Lift box, find live too. Get out knife. Grab roo. Roo fights back...pushes you on box. Trip over. Pick up knife, throw it at roo. Miss.
Go to Ute. Get 30-06. Shoot the bastard at 400m. No head. Keep legs and straps. Reset box.


:lol: :lol:

NO...actually YOU started it...!!

And...
Nope...
I got nothin...you win...

Your yarn sounds like a good ol' Benny Hill...or Paul Hogan's character Leo Wanker sketch.....except for it lacked the babes in bikini's...
Slot them in & you'll hit prime time mate...!

(Ah wait, sorry...nope...good old harmless piss-take humour is too offensive for these days)
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by Bill » 24 Apr 2019, 10:55 am

After testing some reloads for my 270 Win I'd be hard pressed buying a 7mm RM or a 30-06 again.

Had no trouble getting 150gr BT upto 3100fps, really pleasant to shoot compared to the old 3006 with the 180gr off the bench.
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by TassieTiger » 24 Apr 2019, 1:15 pm

Your right Stix...I started it yeweeeha

The 270 is a fine cartridge (for fragile ppl) and no doubt they all have their attributes.
I read somewhere in a book now, that with modern boat tail projectiles and ballistic hunting tips, the 06 hits with more energy at 500 yards, than the 300wsm at 100 yards with older style slugs.
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by Member-Deleted » 24 Apr 2019, 5:23 pm

So Tassie Tiger its buy a 300wsm now :allegedly: not a 30-06 or you'll be over gunned :thumbsup: :D
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by duncan61 » 24 Apr 2019, 5:37 pm

When I first obtained my 7mm Sendero I had to get 100 gn sierra gamekings and used 56gn 2208 for around 3300fps.It actually decapitated some of the head shot roos I culled on our hill block.The farmer was most impressed as I had a Mitshibishi 300 Express at the time with a rail set up inside and it was my weekend for milking.They all laughed at me using a van for culling but it was 4wd and had a big window for the rest and I could drive to a servo with 20 plus animals inside and you could not see them through the tinted windows
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by TassieTiger » 25 Apr 2019, 4:20 am

So Tassie Tiger its buy a 300wsm now :allegedly: not a 30-06 or you'll be over gunned :thumbsup: :D


Over gunned? Over gunned?? Please explain !
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by Member-Deleted » 25 Apr 2019, 9:00 am

Yeah no such word is there my bad :thumbsup: :lol:
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by SCJ429 » 25 Apr 2019, 11:58 am

TassieTiger wrote:The 270 is a fine cartridge (for fragile ppl) and no doubt they all have their attributes.
I read somewhere in a book now, that with modern boat tail projectiles and ballistic hunting tips, the 06 hits with more energy at 500 yards, than the 300wsm at 100 yards with older style slugs.


I would like to see the data, are you saying that with a 180 grain boat tail the 30/06 has more energy at 500 than a 180 grain round nosed bullet from the WSM at 100? I am sure you don't believe this.

You also might be surprised how capable the 270 is, at 500 metres it has a ballistic advantage over the 30/06. They are both very capable cartridges and neither kick like a 45/70.
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by wrenchman » 26 Apr 2019, 12:06 am

i say get the one you like its more what you want and what works for you.
i have found what i hunt with has more to do were i am hunting and what typ of hunting i am doing.
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by TassieTiger » 26 Apr 2019, 7:18 am

SCJ429 wrote:
TassieTiger wrote:The 270 is a fine cartridge (for fragile ppl) and no doubt they all have their attributes.
I read somewhere in a book now, that with modern boat tail projectiles and ballistic hunting tips, the 06 hits with more energy at 500 yards, than the 300wsm at 100 yards with older style slugs.


I would like to see the data, are you saying that with a 180 grain boat tail the 30/06 has more energy at 500 than a 180 grain round nosed bullet from the WSM at 100? I am sure you don't believe this.

You also might be surprised how capable the 270 is, at 500 metres it has a ballistic advantage over the 30/06. They are both very capable cartridges and neither kick like a 45/70.


Well it was on the internet so it must be accurate, ?
The thing is, I never looked into it - because I really don’t care...I came across it (May have been a YouTube video...long live the 06 or the 06 isn’t dead or some crap...
EVEN if it had a spec of truth to it, if the author used a modern boat tail in the 300wsm - it would negate all the claims so wtf?
I know the 270 is a great round and shoots flatter. 338 lapua is great as well as is the .22lr but the absolute fact is - I currently don’t own a 270 but I do an 06 so it is my duty to hang satanic poo on the 270 same as everyone else does...brings up an interesting point tho...
I wonder how many ppl own calibres (or owned) they don’t like and don’t support? 5% 1% ? Wouldn’t be many. Humanism is a weird thing.
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by SCJ429 » 26 Apr 2019, 8:42 am

They are all great usable case designs, we are just spoilt for choice and can pick and choose. The good thing about the 30/06 and the 308 is that there is so much data available for all sorts of bullets.
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by TassieTiger » 26 Apr 2019, 10:27 am

100% agree and I’ve said it previously - I don’t know why I’ve gravitated to the 06 over anything else...no rhyme reason. But there is enough data out there, enough tech, enough ppl that almost every caliber can be made to do fifty times more than the original design...I’ve seen 223’s shooting to a 1000.
Ballistics ? Is the scheme of hunting, if your holding 5 inches as opposed to 6 - what does it matter, a 10-20% variation? Means nothing to the deer...
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by TassieTiger » 06 May 2019, 9:23 pm

SCJ429 wrote:
TassieTiger wrote:The 270 is a fine cartridge (for fragile ppl) and no doubt they all have their attributes.
I read somewhere in a book now, that with modern boat tail projectiles and ballistic hunting tips, the 06 hits with more energy at 500 yards, than the 300wsm at 100 yards with older style slugs.


I would like to see the data, are you saying that with a 180 grain boat tail the 30/06 has more energy at 500 than a 180 grain round nosed bullet from the WSM at 100? I am sure you don't believe this.

You also might be surprised how capable the 270 is, at 500 metres it has a ballistic advantage over the 30/06. They are both very capable cartridges and neither kick like a 45/70.



Here was where I saw the details about the 06 vs 300;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMevDaoEhfk&t=2s

I knew I saw it somewhere....
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by duncan61 » 06 May 2019, 10:09 pm

Round nose bullets are for short range big game and modern target bullets are designed to fly a long way.What happens to the 30/06 with a round nose and the 300 with a target bullet.Not being an ass and I shoot a 7mm Rem Mag but we are all loyal to our favorite toys
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by TassieTiger » 07 May 2019, 12:09 am

duncan61 wrote:Round nose bullets are for short range big game and modern target bullets are designed to fly a long way.What happens to the 30/06 with a round nose and the 300 with a target bullet.Not being an ass and I shoot a 7mm Rem Mag but we are all loyal to our favorite toys


As I wrote above that post previously “EVEN if it had a spec of truth to it, if the author used a modern boat tail in the 300wsm - it would negate all the claims so wtf?”

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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by marksman » 07 May 2019, 4:33 pm

I can see you are as hooked on the 30-06 as I am Tassie
there are other rounds that will do it flatter but who cares as you said " Means nothing to the deer..." and dead is dead
I have a few rifles I can take out but usually I am just grabbing the 06, dont worry though they get the job done without a hitch
I have used mine supported and unsupported to shoot deer out to 400 easy but would go further out with it
I do not have a 7mm rem mag but do have a high opinion of it if I were to compare :drinks:
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by SCJ429 » 07 May 2019, 6:54 pm

TassieTiger wrote:
SCJ429 wrote:
TassieTiger wrote:The 270 is a fine cartridge (for fragile ppl) and no doubt they all have their attributes.
I read somewhere in a book now, that with modern boat tail projectiles and ballistic hunting tips, the 06 hits with more energy at 500 yards, than the 300wsm at 100 yards with older style slugs.


I would like to see the data, are you saying that with a 180 grain boat tail the 30/06 has more energy at 500 than a 180 grain round nosed bullet from the WSM at 100? I am sure you don't believe this.

You also might be surprised how capable the 270 is, at 500 metres it has a ballistic advantage over the 30/06. They are both very capable cartridges and neither kick like a 45/70.



Here was where I saw the details about the 06 vs 300;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMevDaoEhfk&t=2s

I knew I saw it somewhere....

The vid seemed to say that at 600 the 06 shooting high BC bullets would be going faster than a low BC round nose bullet shot out of a Rem Mag also at 600. Hardly surprising, as they say "speed is good but BC is forever"
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by SCJ429 » 07 May 2019, 7:04 pm

It is funny that the vids states that the 30/06 is the ultimate big game cartridge.
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by TassieTiger » 07 May 2019, 7:21 pm

I think the vid has been done up by some 30-06 nut job...who had s negative experience with a 300 maybe
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Re: Sambar hunting 7mm RM vs 30-06

Post by SCJ429 » 07 May 2019, 7:43 pm

I get that people love this case but it is laid on a bit thick in the vid. The 30/06 is a very capable case but it is not the most capable 30 cal, it's designers never set out with that goal in mind.
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