New F-Class open toy

[Apollo]

One of my long range varmint toys maybe F-Class Open one day when I find a range to use. In the meantime varminting & benchrest.

Stolle Grizzly II Action Right Bolt Dual Port, Jewell BR 1.5oz Trigger, Kelbly M1 Long Range Stock (weight system), Pac-Nor NBRSA Heavy Varmint 28.5" Barrel chambered in 6.5x47 Lapua, Ken Farrell 20 MOA Picatinny Steel Rail, Kelbly Rings and March-X Tactical 8-80x56mm Scope.



175m Target. 5 shot group plus sighter / first cold shot below. Not the best group shot but reasonable for conditions.

[Supporter]

That's a serious rig you've got there Apollo.

80x scope...

[Apollo]

If you like that toy, he's another.

Remington 700 SA Custom, Jewell 1.5oz BR Trigger, Custom Laminated Stock, Kreiger 26.5" Heavy Varmint Barrel and March Long Range 10-60x52mm Scope. Opps, also 6.5x47 Lapua..... BTW the rear Bag is a SEB Bigfoot weighs about 12kg and the Front Rest is a Farley.

Both these two are also built as "Switch Barrel" to 30BR.

I like my toys.....and the best fun is feeding them.

[feedr]

I like em too

Mucho jealousy right now

[MCLE]

Picked up my sons Rifle a twin to mine.In the same calibers as mine 6mm Dasher and 308 so more work coming up running in barrels.We went to a comp on the weekend and I was still fire forming cases and not a lot of shots through the 6mmDasher but it went ok even fire forming cases it still shot better than me . We shot 500y three times tricky wind we managed 59 with 4 58 with 4 and a 57 with 3 ended up with 174 with 11 as you can see l was going the wrong way but l was happy with howe it shot as I haven't done load development yet ....haven't shot it as a Dasher .179 with 12 won it so we weren't completely embarrassed .

[MCLE]

Only lost a Couple of cases fire forming to to this point .

[jays]

Is that a split shoulder on the case on the right?

[MCLE]

Yep shore is I split 2 cases out of about 190 they must of been a little hard. The funny thing is it was at a comp on Sunday .laid down for the second 500y the first shot Bang target went down l ejected the case and had a look at it and noticed the split o well I thought it will be interesting to see where it goes bugger me a super.Laid down for the third 500y Bang ejected the case noticed the split and for the same result a super.So I will sacrifice a case for a super all day long.But almost FF all the cases so hope no more split we will see .

[whert]

For the few split cases, where they brand new? Or shot in something else?

Annealed or not?

[Apollo]

The split cases are just part of the game and can happen. Only needs a very slight weak spot or fault even with Lapua Cases.

I have done a few running an expander in a 6mmBR Lapua Case, brand new, expanding it to 30 Calibre. Plenty of lube and going steady but it happens. Feels like a waste throwing a brand new case in the rubbish. About 4 out of the 300 odd I have formed so far.

I'll accept that for such an accurate calibre and pleasure to shoot. Best part here is that once formed, fire formed these cases in this calibre should last well past 50 reloads each.

Nice rifles MCLE, really like the natural finish on the laminate.

[Manimal]

Feels like a waste throwing a brand new case in the rubbish. About 4 out of the 300 odd I have formed so far.

Meh, what's that $3-$4 ?

A drop in the bucket compared to your whole shooting setup.

[MCLE]

For the few split cases, where they brand new? Or shot in something else?

Annealed or not?

They were New Lap 6mm BR cases and I was fire forming them in the Dasher.Only lost 2 ATM.

[MCLE]

We went out today and shot our new toys at 800y as Dashers and the load showed a little promise.I managed a 58 with 7 and my son managed a 59 4 so a good start......

[Deco]

Not bad.

[Muddy1967]

We went out today and shot our new toys at 800y as Dashers and the load showed a little promise.I managed a 58 with 7 and my son managed a 59 4 so a good start......

Hey man where are you shooting 800y?
I want to get into longer range stuff.

[MCLE]

We shoot Fclass and there are ranges all over the state some go back to 1000y have a look at the VRA web site for the closest range near you.

[Muddy1967]

cool thanks

[Apollo]

We went out today and shot our new toys at 800y as Dashers and the load showed a little promise.I managed a 58 with 7 and my son managed a 59 4 so a good start......

As you are going to realise I don't shoot F-Class, was going to have a go but the local range has been closed permanently, I can't shoot prone for more than a few minutes due to permanent injuries.

Could you explain the scoring please. What is meant by "58 with 7" and "59 4".

[Chronos]

We went out today and shot our new toys at 800y as Dashers and the load showed a little promise.I managed a 58 with 7 and my son managed a 59 4 so a good start......

As you are going to realise I don't shoot F-Class, was going to have a go but the local range has been closed permanently, I can't shoot prone for more than a few minutes due to permanent injuries.

Could you explain the scoring please. What is meant by "58 with 7" and "59 4".

Target rings are numbered from 6 at the center ring outward a so the maximum score from ten shots is 60 then you get Speer centers, used to break up shooters when the top few all shoot 60

So 58 with 7 would most likely be 8 shots in the 6 ring (including his 7 shots in the super ring) for 48 points with 7, 2 shots in the 5 ring for 10 points for a total of 58, then the 7 supers

It's a game I have only dabbled in but hope to get into t some point with my 6BR for out to 600 and .284 win at the longer ranges

Chronos

[Apollo]

Thanks mate, I might have to have a dabble at 500 & 800m out at that tree we ranged.

Next I'll have to find is how big the 6 ring is at various ranges. I found some info but not sure if it's right. At 500m, Super V 72mm and 6 Ring 145mm. That's a lot bigger than our "500m Fly Target" with it's 10 Score Ring at 46mm. So those 1.5-2.5" 5 shot groups at 500m would score well if they were on center. Sounds like fun.

Edit... BTW, is this "Best Edge" where touching/breaking the line brings the higher score.

And I realise it is not "Group" so no extra points for best grouping. Pity.

Oh how many variations of shooting targets there are out and about but it all makes you a better hunter as well by improving your skills.

[Chronos]

Thanks mate, I might have to have a dabble at 500 & 800m out at that tree we ranged.

Next I'll have to find is how big the 6 ring is at various ranges. I found some info but not sure if it's right. At 500m, Super V 72mm and 6 Ring 145mm. That's a lot bigger than our "500m Fly Target" with it's 10 Score Ring at 46mm. So those 1.5-2.5" 5 shot groups at 500m would score well if they were on center. Sounds like fun.

Edit... BTW, is this "Best Edge" where touching/breaking the line brings the higher score.

And I realise it is not "Group" so no extra points for best grouping. Pity.

Oh how many variations of shooting targets there are out and about but it all makes you a better hunter as well by improving your skills.

all the rules are here http://www.nraa.com.au/wp-content/uploa ... ers-2b.pdf and chapter 6 covers scoring and chapter 13 covers targets and the ring dimentions for different distances

13.1.3 Target Dimensions – for Imperial Yard Ranges

MODIFIED ICFRA Distances in Yards All Dimensions in millimetres
Yards Appendix Aim Super V
(X) Centre Bull Inner Magpie Outer Hit (Score 1)
300y 560 32 65 130 260 390 560 ROT – 1200x1200
400y D3.1 746 43 86 173 346 520 746 ROT – 1200x1200
500y 915 65 130 260 600 915 1320 ROT – 1800x1800
600y 915 72 145 290 600 915 1320 ROT – 1800x1800
700y D3.1 1000 80 160 320 660 1000 1320 ROT – 1800x1800
800y 1120 127 255 510 815 1120 1830 ROT – 2400Wx1800H
900y 1120 127 255 510 815 1120 1830 ROT – 2400Wx1800H
1000y 1120 127 255 510 815 1120 1830 ROT – 2400Wx1800

i'm not up to date with the scoring ring sizes as it has undergone some changes since i shot it, seems having half the field within a few points of each other required smaller scoring rings to sort the wheat from the chaff LOL

Chronos

edit: i have pasted the table showing target info but the formatting is rubbish LOL

at 800y it seems the X ring (6 points) is 5" or 127mm, pretty achievable if you take shooter error, enviromental conditions, bull ants, random load errors and anything else that can be blamed for not putting every shot in the same hole at 800y LOL

[Apollo]

Sorry "MCLE" to take things "Off Topic" but you are making me wish I could have a go with my rubbish calibres.

Might have to go visit a mate down town and find out when he's next taking his 6mm Dasher for a run, or better still invite him up here.

[MCLE]

Hi,

We have some guys that shoot 500m fly and shoot F-Class as well and they go well. Some of them go very well.

One of the things that some of them find hard is when they shoot Fly they are shooting off a very solid Bench, like a concrete Bench, very stable and usually under a roof.

But when shooting F-Class they find themselves laying on the ground on uneven mounds ( sometimes ) and with the sun beating down on them and it is a little different to what they are used to.

But if you can hit a fly at 500y you will probably do very well in F-Class as well.

It's all about getting out there and having fun.

[AusC]

It's all about getting out there and having fun.

Yeah, who cares if you don't come first.

You'll still have a fun day

[MCLE]

Just dropped my sons Rifle off at the Air Brushing studio to get the stock turned into the Australian Flag flying in the wind.With luck it will come out looking ok.

[Bark]

Cool.

When you picking the rifle up again?

Need pics

[MCLE]

Picking it up on Friday with luck as we are heading out for a shot on Saturday.They are putting a special plastic wrap on the bottom so when sitting on the Farley stand it doesn't scratch the paint under recoil.So post a pic on Friday hopefully.

[Apollo]

If you want to add the "plastic wrap" to your other firearms it may be purchased prehaps through you local gunshop but if not BRT Shooters Supply it is pre-cut for the front and rear. Two pieces. I forget the exact name of the product but they call it "Stock Tape" and the front piece is about 150mm square, the rear 150mm x 70mm approx.

I use "Cordura" bags and it doesn't scratch/mark stocks nor need anything to make it slippery for a stock to "Track" correctly. Some do spay it with silicon spray as well. No chalk required.

Looking forward to the photos.

[Bark]

Cool.

For not scratching up the bottom... I've just been sticking a bit of clear contact on the bottom of mine when I'm on the bench.

Keeps it pretty, peels off easy without residue too.

Just something for the future.

[Apollo]

The correct "Stock Tape" is made from Teflon (PTFE) or another type is UHMW (Ultra High Molecular Weight). It is reasonable thick, some are reinforced with glass fibre but most important they are slippery on the surface.

I believe the Teflon is the better but a little more expensive.

Stock Tape http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/200 ... tock-tape/