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Good old Three Oohh.

Post by Stoney » 18 Dec 2018, 4:56 pm

G'day Fellas,
I was at the range today having a play with " Penny ", my recently acquired " Parker Hale " .303. It was sold to me as a PH, and although I have seen early PH posters of their standard 1A? sporter which looks close I'm not sure.

Anyhoo, I wack a scope and a screw on mount on with very little expectations. I bought some PPU 180 grn ammo for tests and cheap brass, which grouped low slow and wide. So , using only a Lee Loader I started to develop loads using AR2206H, AR2208 and AR2209.
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The 100 yrd group on the left is 174 grn Hornady RNSP .312 AR2206H, middle, AR2208, and right AR2209.

Not too bad for a gun made in 1942.
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Re: Good old Three Oohh.

Post by bigrich » 18 Dec 2018, 5:11 pm

good work mate, doesn't shoot too bad at all on the 2206h . pretty bloody good actually :drinks: :thumbsup:
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Post by JimTom » 18 Dec 2018, 5:32 pm

AR2206H, nice work mate. I’d be happy with that for sure.
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Post by Bills Shed » 18 Dec 2018, 5:34 pm

Classic calibre still doing the job. Good to see.

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Post by Stoney » 18 Dec 2018, 5:39 pm

Bills Shed wrote:Classic calibre still doing the job. Good to see.

Bill


That's the scope mount you sent me Bill :D . Didn't fit a No4 Mk1* but fit a No4 Mk1 perfect. :drinks:
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Post by marksman » 18 Dec 2018, 6:48 pm

good job :thumbsup: I like it
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Post by Stoney » 18 Dec 2018, 6:50 pm

bigrich wrote:good work mate, doesn't shoot too bad at all on the 2206h . pretty bloody good actually :drinks: :thumbsup:



All about understanding what you are dealing with mate.
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Re: Good old Three Oohh.

Post by SCJ429 » 18 Dec 2018, 8:01 pm

I would have thought that 2206h was a bit fast for a 303, looks like it is working for you. Are you finding you loose a bit of velocity compared to 2209?
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Post by Stoney » 18 Dec 2018, 8:37 pm

SCJ429 wrote:I would have thought that 2206h was a bit fast for a 303, looks like it is working for you. Are you finding you loose a bit of velocity compared to 2209?


Hey SCJ429, I haven't cronoed the loads yet, but if you look at all 3 it seems to me that the velocity is climbing and torqueing to the left on the 08 and 09 load. Which would indicate to me a higher velocity.
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Post by bigrich » 18 Dec 2018, 8:40 pm

i dunno about those old brake drums in the photo for a shootin rest mate..... :lol: :lol: :drinks: :thumbsup:
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Post by Stoney » 18 Dec 2018, 8:45 pm

SCJ429 wrote:I would have thought that 2206h was a bit fast for a 303, looks like it is working for you. Are you finding you loose a bit of velocity compared to 2209?


I am just amazed to shoot a mickey mouse group with a .303 to be honest. :D
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Post by Stoney » 18 Dec 2018, 9:04 pm

bigrich wrote:i dunno about those old brake drums in the photo for a shootin rest mate..... :lol: :lol: :drinks: :thumbsup:



Old HD drums if I am not mistaken :D
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Post by SCJ429 » 18 Dec 2018, 10:03 pm

Yes the 2209 looks fastest, all the groups are respectable and you could use any of them to tune up a load. Was the target orientated sideways or you turned it that way for the photo?
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Post by Stoney » 18 Dec 2018, 10:16 pm

SCJ429 wrote:Yes the 2209 looks fastest, all the groups are respectable and you could use any of them to tune up a load. Was the target orientated sideways or you turned it that way for the photo?


No mate, target is as it was. The last time I shot the loads I shot in the top 3 and the 2206h rounds went way over so this time I shot the bottom ones. Here is the other target I shot with exactly the same loads but, the projectile seated out further. Which I shot after the first group. My .303 don't like bullets seated out beyond the cannelure it seems.
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Re: Good old Three Oohh.

Post by Stoney » 18 Dec 2018, 10:24 pm

Stoney wrote:
SCJ429 wrote:Yes the 2209 looks fastest, all the groups are respectable and you could use any of them to tune up a load. Was the target orientated sideways or you turned it that way for the photo?


No mate, target is as it was. The last time I shot the loads I shot in the top 3 and the 2206h rounds went way over so this time I shot the bottom ones. Here is the other target I shot with exactly the same loads but, the projectile seated out further. Which I shot after the first group. My .303 don't like bullets seated out beyond the cannelure it seems.


Notice once again the group rises and moves to the left. That's with seating out 30 thou. Neck tension is very crucial with the .303 it seems.
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Post by JimTom » 18 Dec 2018, 11:07 pm

I’d love to see Lithgow release a .303 once they sort out the current issues.
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Post by Stoney » 18 Dec 2018, 11:15 pm

JimTom wrote:I’d love to see Lithgow release a .303 once they sort out the current issues.
Great cartridge.


It's Un-Australian if they bloody don't mate. I know there is a petition to try and convince them.
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Post by duncan61 » 19 Dec 2018, 12:26 am

I have never owned a 303/308 or 30/06 but they all seem to be similar in perfor,ance according to the ADI charts.303 British will be around for some time yet
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