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Post by Jeff » 12 Oct 2019, 9:42 pm

One of the clubs out here have started building a 200 yard range for centre fire ,what wold be a good set up for bench rest shooting at that distance, will only be used for target shooting
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Post by SCJ429 » 12 Oct 2019, 9:47 pm

Stolle Panda chambered in 6PPC.
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Post by SCJ429 » 12 Oct 2019, 9:59 pm

Or you could get a factory rifle chambered in 222 and shoot some flat based bullets from Berger.
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Post by TassieTiger » 12 Oct 2019, 10:07 pm

If 200m was max distance that was going to be shot, if this was your first step into target / centre fires, if you were paper punching only, if a budget was to be considered - I’d argue a 223 in a heavy barrel with a 1:9 twist rate or faster, with a Leupold vx3 or better (maybe a 6.5-20 locked on 20) shooting 60gn projectiles would do quite nicely...
If wind is likely to be a factor then perhaps something heavier, but even so, a 223 with light recoil is pretty happy out passed 200m...
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Post by bladeracer » 12 Oct 2019, 10:10 pm

Jeff wrote:One of the clubs out here have started building a 200 yard range for centre fire ,what wold be a good set up for bench rest shooting at that distance, will only be used for target shooting


Benchrest is one of those disciplines that generally use a rifle custom built for the purpose - is there a class that uses conventional rifles?
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Post by bladeracer » 12 Oct 2019, 10:15 pm

TassieTiger wrote:If 200m was max distance that was going to be shot, if this was your first step into target / centre fires, if you were paper punching only, if a budget was to be considered - I’d argue a 223 in a heavy barrel with a 1:9 twist rate or faster, with a Leupold vx3 or better (maybe a 6.5-20 locked on 20) shooting 60gn projectiles would do quite nicely...
If wind is likely to be a factor then perhaps something heavier, but even so, a 223 with light recoil is pretty happy out passed 200m...


.223 can do 1000yd comps, but I would go tighter than 9"-twist, 7" would be good, especially in a 30" barrel.
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Post by TassieTiger » 12 Oct 2019, 10:30 pm

Fair point for sure BR - he did say target rifle only so 30 inches def the go...I’d want to leave a window for a little hunting potential and run 22-24 inches but that’s just me.
I’d def be eating reloads over factory and if a 1:7 then projectiles in the high 70gns would perform better than 60’s.
Out of left field, I jumped on used gns a few hours ago and saw some very nicely priced Leupold scopes gone up In the last day or so...
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Post by SCJ429 » 12 Oct 2019, 10:35 pm

You want to run as little twist as possible, 1:14 is a good choice and use 40 to 55 grain bullets for a 22 or 60 to 70 grain bullets in a 6mm.
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Post by bladeracer » 12 Oct 2019, 10:40 pm

TassieTiger wrote:Fair point for sure BR - he did say target rifle only so 30 inches def the go...I’d want to leave a window for a little hunting potential and run 22-24 inches but that’s just me.
I’d def be eating reloads over factory and if a 1:7 then projectiles in the high 70gns would perform better than 60’s.
Out of left field, I jumped on used gns a few hours ago and saw some very nicely priced Leupold scopes gone up In the last day or so...


I was thinking more the 90gn+ region. At 200yds, BC would be irrelevant to most of us, but when you're trying to make a single hole in paper it might be all important.
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Post by bladeracer » 12 Oct 2019, 10:42 pm

SCJ429 wrote:You want to run as little twist as possible, 1:14 is a good choice and use 40 to 55 grain bullets for a 22 or 60 to 70 grain bullets in a 6mm.


55gn bullets for Benchrest competition?
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Post by SCJ429 » 12 Oct 2019, 10:52 pm

I have not seen a 22 PPC shooter run a pill any heavier. You need to keep the bullet short so you can keep the RPM low.

The barrel lenght is usually just over 20 inches. No long barrels for short range benchrest.
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Post by duncan61 » 13 Oct 2019, 12:55 am

6mm BR
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Post by Apollo » 13 Oct 2019, 8:53 am

A 200 Yard Target Range will probably be setup for 100 & 200 Yard Competition. For Group a 6mm PPC, for Score a 30BR built on any of the Custom Actions, Stocks with probably a 3" Forend and weight for which class of competition. A competitive setup in the benchrest world would probably need to have an accuracy nearly down to 0.1 MOA at worse 0.25MOA.

Is also a good distance to try 200 Yard Rimfire Fly and hone those wind reading skills.
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Post by TassieTiger » 13 Oct 2019, 8:57 am

How do you measure .1 Moa lol...getting to the point where a .17 will have advantages based on projectile width lol
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Post by duncan61 » 13 Oct 2019, 9:25 am

Yes there is Blade.The last time I shot the range I learned that because all the classes were getting complex there is now field rifle which my unmodified Remington Sendero is and F/class for unlimited stuff up to rail guns.If half your fore end is cut out to sit on a adjustable tripod and you have a custom barrel and all the fruit it is F/class.
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Post by Apollo » 13 Oct 2019, 9:29 am

TassieTiger wrote:How do you measure .1 Moa lol...getting to the point where a .17 will have advantages based on projectile width lol


Pretty easy to measure with the correct approved tools for benchrest scoring. A .17 would probably be one of the worst calibres to use, projectile width has nothing to do with it. For benchrest score it is very hard to beat the accuracy from a 30 calibre BR (30BR) using the likes of a 115gr FB Target Bullet and hit the tiny dot in the target center every time (best edge scoring).

Great calibre 30BR for practise since barrel wear is near zero.
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Post by Jeff » 13 Oct 2019, 9:32 am

TassieTiger wrote:If 200m was max distance that was going to be shot, if this was your first step into target / centre fires, if you were paper punching only, if a budget was to be considered - I’d argue a 223 in a heavy barrel with a 1:9 twist rate or faster, with a Leupold vx3 or better (maybe a 6.5-20 locked on 20) shooting 60gn projectiles would do quite nicely...
If wind is likely to be a factor then perhaps something heavier, but even so, a 223 with light recoil is pretty happy out passed 200m...



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Post by Jeff » 13 Oct 2019, 9:33 am

bladeracer wrote:
Jeff wrote:One of the clubs out here have started building a 200 yard range for centre fire ,what wold be a good set up for bench rest shooting at that distance, will only be used for target shooting


Benchrest is one of those disciplines that generally use a rifle custom built for the purpose - is there a class that uses conventional rifles?


Yes mate there will be
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