How difficult is an 800 meter shot

[vexesus]

A proper "Fullbore" target shoot is only with .308, right?

[MCLE]

A proper "Fullbore" target shoot is only with .308, right?

Target rifle or full bore use 308. And 223

[Warrigul]

A proper "Fullbore" target shoot is only with .308, right?

AS MLCE said .308 and .223, however there seems to be a small revival with more and more old .303's appearing on club days.

Lets face it the skills are similar, I would rate fullbore as requiring more skill than F class or its derivatives. The person is the main factor in the middle of the pack not whose equipment is technically better.

Fullbore is very frustrating when you first start.

[MCLE]

Hi Warrigal,

There's is a lot of skill in Target Rifle I do agree and the basics are the same. As for Whose Equipment is technically better there is some truth in that for both sports. I think a TR shooter who shot 30 years ago with the top end Equipment back then would probably say the same about the equipment used by top end TR shooters now. We have had a lot of TR shooters coming over to F-Class for lots of reasons. Unfortunately for the sport TR are losing 14% of their membership a year so it's a worry as to where it may end up. While you are right in that F-Class use and have more technical Equipment / Scopes / stands/ the TR shooters that l have seen convert to F-Class find it more difficult than they thought.TR shooters are happy to shoot 5 all day long and some of the top shooters do. So about a 7 inch (I think I should know ) ring at 500y if a top end F-Class shooter shoots 5s and shoots a 50 out of 60 then he isn't even in the race and would be having a crap day. He needs to shoot a 60 so 10 shots into about a 5inch ring and this won't win him a lot he needs to be shooting supers so needs to be getting 5 or more of those shots into a 3 inch ring. So while he does have more Equipment he is shooting at a target a lot smaller to be competitive. I for one hope that TR and F-Class go on for a long time and as l love the sport. But with the falling numbers of TR is a worry and the Attitude of some of the old TR shooters that hold positions of power within the sport don't help. But both are skilled in their own way and both a heap of fun...

[on_one_wheel]

. " We have had a lot of TR shooters comming over to Fclass for lots of reasons.Unfortunetly for the sport TR are loosing 14% of there membership a year so it's a worry as to where it may end up."

"But with the falling numbers of TR is a worry and the Attertude of some of the old TR shooters that hold positions of power within the sport don't help.But both are skilled in there own way and both a heap of fun".....

They just don't push for members, I have only ever seen a club put up a stand at a country show once, witch was good to see, but that's only once in over 3 decades.

When I walk into my local gun shops there are no flyers, no club advertising e.g., and I know that a few blokes behind the counter are club shooters.

They should be in our faces with membership drives, handing out flyers and forms to new shooters while they are going for their licences, putting up stands at all the country shows and openly inviting everyone to come out and have a shoot, and handing out leaflets when they hand you your recept at the shop.

I wonder how much the clubs really care about their dwindling numbers sometimes.

[MCLE]

There is a lot of what you say is true and we should do more to push our sport. That was kind of what l was hinting at re the Attitude of some of the old TR shooters that are In positions of power on the state committees l stress some.

F-Class is growing the comps that we go to there are usually more F-Class than TR. I suppose the problem that the local gunshop has is they are trying to sell you a rifle. And almost all the rifles that they would have are not suitable and won't deliver the Accuracy needed to shoot F-Class out to 1,000y.

Look at it from he's point of view you go in there to per chase a new rifle to shoot way out yonder so he shows you the Latest Offerings from Howa Remington Tikka Savage and the like and after you get it gives you a flyer for the local F-Class comp and then tells you that you are going to struggle with the rifle that he has just sold you.

Having said that Savage do have a good F-Class set up but hardly just sitting around at the average shop. But you can take your varmitting set up and give it a whirl at the shorter distances. Just turn up to the local club they will welcome you and most have club rifles give it a go.

[vexesus]

MCLE, Warrigal

And .223 eh, Thanks.