Accuracy

[cavok]

Accuracy, I have just looked at the section on this forum where targets can be downloaded. I admire people who have the patience and dedication and obviously the rifle to place a shot at xxxx metres onto a match head. Then repeat the process again and again.

I have years ago shot what was then called UIT and watched shooters attempting to place one bullet hole on top of another using .22 pistols, I never had this patience. Best I could do on the open day after in think 5 days training was to bring my own toy pistol, as we all could and shoot.

At 25 metres I believe my six shots were about the size of 50 cent coin, in about 10 seconds. We were allowed I think 5 minutes or so for the shoot, I was abused for not taking my full 5 minutes or whatever and getting a better group, it was training by a prestigious club, I failed, never to be asked back.

Hence for those that can with rifle or pistol shoot groups of the size of a 1cent coin or smaller, you have my admiration, brilliant. Best I can do is shoot fast, as I was trained to do, if you could not draw and shoot at a target (twice) in less than 2 seconds, hitting the base heart size, you failed. I thing the distance was 10 metres, then with a rifle again something similar.

So, to all the bench rest shooters and those people who crave accuracy, we stand and applaud.

[Combat_Wombat]

Yeah I'm with you on this one mate the only time I'll spend really trying to get perfect accuracy is sighting in and occasionally try long shots when I take mates out plinking. I mean each to their own but I would rather practice snap shooting and hitting moving targets rather then get cloverleaf groups.

[North East]

Who cares…a.30 cal will kill anything within 6" of the heart/lung zone.

[Chronos]

every gun has to be accurate enough to do it's job, if it's job is killing large deer than as our mate NE says 6" at 100y is good enough on what he hunts, probably large deer in the kind of think forest he hunts in, after all it sounds like he lives in sambar country

but what if the job is hitting bunnies and foxes at longer ranges like another fella here? for him 2" at 200y might be enough from his .204R

now what if your rifles job is winning 200y benchrest comps? suddenly your 6BR BR rifle that shoots .5" groups at 200y isn't even close to doing it's job. you see people that consistently shoot 200y groups in the teens (.010-.020") and guess what? you're at the bottom of the heap

look at Brett here on the forum and his heavy hitters, you cannot help but be impressed by the engineering and investment, both in cash and time that it's taken him to put together his collection. their job? clearly to terrify first time shooters with the kind of numbers he quotes like 250gr and 3000fps

Chronos

[Westy]

X 2 Chronos

[cavok]

I guess accuracy is important, to a point. So how far do we want to take accuracy? Is precision shooting that important, that critical that all other aspects are abandoned. many years ago when the Glock was first on the scene, I proposed that all shoot Glocks, as they came from the factory, nothing to be touched, shoo what arrived. Well all well and good for the first month or two, then we noticed, some, changed nothing but smoothed out minor burrs, tightened triggers, but still changed nothing, how could one object. Hence as someone wrote above, accurate enough to do its job. Hence, does this come from the shooter or his or her modifications?

[brett1868]

"look at Brett here on the forum and his heavy hitters, you cannot help but be impressed by the engineering and investment, both in cash and time that it's taken him to put together his collection. their job? clearly to terrify first time shooters with the kind of numbers he quotes like 250gr and 3000fps "

More like 350gr between 3066 & 3171

I love it when far away things get deader quicker

I'm not a bench rest shooter as such though I do use a bench and a milk crate for a lot of my shooting. The guys pulling tiny groups at any range really impress me, not so much for their shooting skill but more so their ability to load such consistent rounds. I'm aspiring to achieve an E.S of 20fps or less and it's proving to be a real struggle though I am getting there slowly. Also when paying up to $4 for 1 projectile you need to make sure every shots a winner.

[cavok]

Totally agree, as in the field every shoot always counted, we both know that is what is was all about, there is no dollar cost, one deer, one pig, one buffalo, you miss you pay a heavy price, as with the other target.

[Carter]

More like 350gr between 3066 & 3171

It's the 3171 that seals it.

If you'd said 3170 I wouldn't have been impressed

[Brute]

Accuracy, I have just looked at the section on this forum where targets can be downloaded. I admire people who have the patience and dedication and obviously the rifle to place a shot at xxxx metres onto a match head. Then repeat the process again and again.

I've had a few goes on the progressive dots target that Aster did to be downloaded.

That last dot... I've put a few pages through and so fair they're still unscathed

All good fun still

[bigfellascott]

The only time I shoot paper is when load testing or sighting in, being a varmint hunter its not overly important to have each shot in one whole type thing, so long as they are shooting an 1" or less I can use them to good affect.

I was out yesterday with a load that was untested in any way shape or form (I'd run out of reloads with the 39bk so had some of these 26gn Barnes VG's loaded up so thought what the hell I'll take them as a back up if I run out of the BK's anyway I ran out of the BK's halfway through the bunny bustin exercise so though oh well I'll lob one of these at a bunny and see how I go, well they shot fine, don't really know how much diff the POI was compared to the SBK's but they were smacking tiny little bunnies in the head (golf ball size head) at up to 160m without drama so I guess they can't be shooting too bad.

I will however put some down on paper and see what's really happening but to be honest I didn't expect them to shoot so well considering how untested they were but there ya go, every now and again ya get lucky.

[Chronos]

The only time I shoot paper is when load testing or sighting in, being a varmint hunter its not overly important to have each shot in one whole type thing, so long as they are shooting an 1" or less I can use them to good affect.

I was out yesterday with a load that was untested in any way shape or form (I'd run out of reloads with the 39bk so had some of these 26gn Barnes VG's loaded up so thought what the hell I'll take them as a back up if I run out of the BK's anyway I ran out of the BK's halfway through the bunny bustin exercise so though oh well I'll lob one of these at a bunny and see how I go, well they shot fine, don't really know how much diff the POI was compared to the SBK's but they were smacking tiny little bunnies in the head (golf ball size head) at up to 160m without drama so I guess they can't be shooting too bad.

I will however put some down on paper and see what's really happening but to be honest I didn't expect them to shoot so well considering how untested they were but there ya go, every now and again ya get lucky.

Nothing wrong with the Barnes accuracy wise, I loaded them up in .5gr steps of 8208 and all loads shot under moa out of a CZ. my wife shot a 5 shot group under 1 1/2" on a typically windy day at Mudgee. Fair to say they'd be zipping along too.

Chronos

[scrolllock]

That last dot... I've put a few pages through and so fair they're still unscathed

That %*^(# battleships targets!

Always one at the end which takes 1/4 of a box to sink

[bigfellascott]

Nothing wrong with the Barnes accuracy wise, I loaded them up in .5gr steps of 8208 and all loads shot under moa out of a CZ. my wife shot a 5 shot group under 1 1/2" on a typically windy day at Mudgee. Fair to say they'd be zipping along too.

Yeah mate they seem to go alright in the Howski, very surprised considering I never had any idea of where they were shooting. It certainly shot straight enough going by the results in the paddock! I've also got some 35gn Bergers to test out too, I'd imagine they should shoot ok too.

[Blackened]

That %*^(# battleships targets!

I'm sure that's the kind of feedback Aster likes to hear

[Westy]

Yep I can see how this could boring !!!Shooting a .22 with 5 shot groups like this @ 50m would make me wanta pack up and go home to!!!



NOT

[chicachicka]

That first ones just about perfect.

Measurement?

[Oldbloke]

Put simply. It's horses for courses.

[samf]

What's "tuner" mean in no tuner in the photos there?

[Timb0]

Yep I can see how this could boring !!!Shooting a .22 with 5 shot groups like this @ 50m would make me wanta pack up and go home to!!!



NOT

What's that being shot out of Westy ?

[Westy]

What's "tuner" mean in no tuner in the photos there?

We mount a rifle tuner on the end of the rifles looks like this, it helps to get the right pitch on the barrel and well here this is better than me rabbiting onhere

http://benchrest.com/showthread.php?706 ... EWBIE-quot

It was shot from a turbo action with a shilen barrel in a custom stock it's about a $5000-00 rifle, not a off the shelf rifle althought a 1712 annie with a tuner on a good day will shoot close to this using eley black ammo.

And lets not start on the Purdy theory as I'll have to ask the brother to explain that one!!!!!

[samf]

Interesting, thanks Westy.