The elbow crook forend rifle grip

[sarki]

I hope I've explained that right

You know where you sort of have your arms crossed with the fore end in your elbow crook instead of holding your left hand out on the grip.

I've been trying it and can only wobble around like crazy.

Anyone got it working or have I fallen into the trap of copying something from a movie?

[Jack V]

I think I know what you are saying. There is many shooting positions but in the end you have to go with what works for you . There is all kinds of physical limitations that individuals have that makes one position better than another for them . If you have tried it for a while and you still don't like it then it's most likely not for you .
Practice is always a good thing , as long as you don't waste too much time and energy on something that is just not ever going to be suitable to you .
There is lots of things in the movies that are right but also plenty that is wrong and many shades in between . Confidence is a huge part of good shooting and it's no good to slave away at practicing something that don't give results as it breaks your confidence . I can't remember if I have tried that position or not but I don't use it now .

[Yelp]

Like this?

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[Lorgar]

Depends on the length of the rifle and balance for me.

On something short like a Scout it was reasonably stable.

Longer barrels, 23" or 24", I found the weight a the front had too much influence and swayed me around.

[Jack V]

With a short light auto like that it would be easier to brace up and stay that way for the string as you don't have to work any action . It's basically a pistol .

[sarki]

Yes like the picture.

I'm talking about regular hunting rifles though, not shorties like that. I still see people using this technique for regular length rifles.

[BBJ]

I don't care for it much.

It's easier on your off-hand than extending the arm but I find it less accurate for a single shot.

For continual shooting over a longer period of time where fatigue could be an issue, it might be good. Just thinking out loud there.

[RDobber]

As above.

With a full length barrel rifle it's not the best, not for me anyway.

[Noisydad]

As Jack said, physical limitations and injuries can make can conventional shooting positions awkward. I struggled to hold my front stuffer solidly in the off hand (standing) position due to tendonitis in the right arm which was a bugger as that's 90% of my shooting. Turned out to be a work induced injury and now fixed with new equipment. The main thing with any hold is not to spend to long aiming. Don't over think the shot, you'll only make the wobbles worse the longer you try to hold it still. If you haven't got the shot off in a couple of seconds, put the rifle down, look away then start again.

[tactice]

I reckon it's good for sitting, not for standing.

IMO.

[Gregg]

There is all kinds of physical limitations that individuals have that makes one position better than another for them .

Does seem like we're a decrepit old bunch us shooters

[Oldbloke]

All the young blokes are outdoing it, were just talking about it.

[Jack V]

Yeah well if low interest rates were not killing us we would be doing more . The Government is sacrificing retirees to set workers up in a home cheaper then we ever could . I battled through 17% interest rates and not one cent of first home bonus now I'm retired I get Zero because they deem me to earn more interest than I actually do. So the net income effect is Zero . The Federal Government needs to wake up to why they are so hated by retired people.

[Warrigul]

I am being paid in USD at the moment so I am happy with the way the government is handling the economy.

[Gwion]

The Government is sacrificing retirees to set workers up in a home cheaper then we ever could . I battled through 17% interest rates....

Jack, while i understand that the crazy interest rates of the late 80's early 90's were hard on a lot of people, our first home bought in 2008 was an 11square, 2.5 bedroom on 500m2 of land in the outter suburbs that cost $340,000 (listed at 290k). In 2000 it was $145,000, in 1993 it was $95,000. So in 15 years it increased by 360%; there's no way in hell that that house is going to be worth $1.2M in another 8 years!!!

Minimum payment on our loan was $600 per week. If we wanted to pay it off in 20 years and not 30 (making me 57 instead of 67) we had to pay something like $1000 a week on the mortgage. At the time we looked at heaps of houses in the 250-300k range and most of them were run down falling to pieces poo holes that you wouldn't house a dog in; only good for "developers" who would knock 'em down and start again.

Hardly call that cheapest housing ever. It is harder than ever to get your foot in the door of the housing market.

[Gwion]

Anyway. Back on topic.

I also think that support method is good for sitting positions and not so great for standing.

[hiyoh]

Hardly call that cheapest housing ever. It is harder than ever to get your foot in the door of the housing market.

For most young folk and couples moving away from their family locations to cheaper cities or outlying areas is becoming the norm it seems.

[Bark]

I sometimes do both, just using different muscles to give the forearm a rest.

[Mule]

I have never found any benefit from this position it just dont work for me
id prefer to brace off a tree or post or 4x4.
might work for a combat rifle

[sarki]

Yep.

Only toying with this as as option when no other rest is available to lean on.