trying new loads

[Mongrel]

Well after using the same bullets since owning the rifle i thought it be time to try dif weights to see which my gun likes the best.
Here is the result from 2 weeks ago (PPU 150gn)

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So i went and bought some
Buffalo River 135 HP,
Sellior and Bellot 150 FMJ (which i cant use at range) and
Outback Ammo 168 BT.
Im not sure what changed from 2 weeks ago but the ppu was hitting lower this time round.
Here is the results from today. Only been to the range 4 times since owning a gun, they arent the best shots and im pretty sure i got the dreaded flinch
All shots were aimed at bullseye cept the bottom right, i aimed at the top of the white section.

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[brett1868]

Get into reloading and you're results will improve dramatically and if you shoot often enough you'll be saving money. If not already saving your old brass then start now so when you do start reloading you'll have some to start with. It's neither difficult nor expensive to reload and there's plenty of people here that can guide you through the process not to mention some great tutorials on YouTube.

[Wm.Traynor]

re the group sizes
You do seem to a bit more elevation than your very first PPU group 2 weeks ago. Checked all your screws?
re the shift in point of impact
Did you change scopes, change to a bag under the butt from 2 weeks ago? Shoot without a butt bag?

[bladeracer]

im pretty sure i got the dreaded flinch

If you shot those with a flinch, it's a very consistent one

[Strikey]

There is only one thing to learn from those groups, you may need some coaching

[tom604]

so many variables the change of point of impact while a worry may just be you i would try a few more types of bullets,it can't hurt, the buff river groups are not that bad, looks like you pulled a couple in the bottom one get some snap caps and get someone to load them at random for you,you will soon find out if you have a flinch. if you have creep in your trigger get it fixed and if its heavy, lighten it up at the same time,,it should break clean and crisp. use a rest or bags and pretty much try and do the same thing each time you pull the trigger oh and save your brass,even if you never reload you can always sell them or give them away

[Mongrel]

Thx guys, yes, I'm saving my brass as I plan to get into it soon.
Also we traynor, I just put a bipod on and it feels so much better than the plastic thing I was using before.
And in regards to trigger I feel it could be lightened, when I was squeezing it while gun was empty I could see the point of impact through scope move,
Lots of things to improve I know, I got lots of time

[Gwion]

Shooting from a bi pod takes practice. You need to 'pre-load' the bi pod by putting forward pressure onto it with your shoulder. With this pressure, you want to achieve a 'natural point of aim', that is, you point of aim is not forced onto the target. So with all hand pressure taken off the stock (soft hands on) and just shoulder preload, your crosshairs should stay on target. All this can be practiced without live ammo. Practice this and you might find those groups improving a bit. No preload and 'muscling' the point of aim is a sure way for shoddy grouping, even with tuned hand loads. My first groups with a bipod went from 0.5moa (off bags) to 1.5+Moa off the bipod; until I got the preload right and consistent.

Hope some of that helps.

[happyhunter]

Go buy a 22LR and practise. If you have a flinch no amount of load testing is going to help you until you sort it out.

[Mongrel]

Shooting from a bi pod takes practice. You need to 'pre-load' the bi pod by putting forward pressure onto it with your shoulder. With this pressure, you want to achieve a 'natural point of aim', that is, you point of aim is not forced onto the target. So with all hand pressure taken off the stock (soft hands on) and just shoulder preload, your crosshairs should stay on target. All this can be practiced without live ammo. Practice this and you might find those groups improving a bit. No preload and 'muscling' the point of aim is a sure way for shoddy grouping, even with tuned hand loads. My first groups with a bipod went from 0.5moa (off bags) to 1.5+Moa off the bipod; until I got the preload right and consistent.

Hope some of that helps.

Cheers Gwion I will have to check it next time to see if i was pre loading or not, cane remember atm.
Also happy hunter that is on the cards just not yet.

[Wm.Traynor]

You have a lot to deal with here, Mongrel so I won't burden you with more advice. Keep us informed about your progress and have a good time

[Wm.Traynor]

It's me again
Just back from reading
enoughgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6602#wrap
The OP seems to have the same rifle as you but his screws have loosened, latest post. Might pay to check yours
Good Luck

[BBJ]

Im not sure what changed from 2 weeks ago but the ppu was hitting lower this time round.

It happens.

Check all your scope mounts/screws are tight, just to rule that out. But can be temperature, wind, you... a little variance is to be expected at times.

[Browning]

You got a mate you go with who is a handy shot? That will help you find the prob....
Will help narrow it down a bit...After that, try a smaller cal like a 22 or a 223 maybe...
Just gotta narrow the possibilities down..

[Mongrel]

Thanks guys, few things to try, will let ya know how I go with it

[Gwion]

Change one thing at a time....

[Mongrel]

Change one thing at a time....

I will be mate, otherwise I'd never know the reasons.

Thanks