AusTac wrote:300 win mag
AusTac wrote:It's really your next step up from a .308 in my opinion
A .308 will do the job you want it to, but if your serious about wanting to hunt long range ( strongly suggest against this ) then say at 460m ( 500 yards ) a 150g .308 projectile is travelling about 570m a second by that stage, compared to a 180gn .300 winmag is travelling about 660m a second, heavier bullet with more velocity, of course these numbers are just a rough idea, it depends on barrel and alot of other factors
Have you ever done any long range stuff? I'm by no means any kind of expert, but shooting and killing an aninal at range is a tough shot...
Bigjobss wrote:..A 300 brings quite a few more ft/lbs of energy than a 308 with the same projectile, but you need to ask yourself how much do you need to get the job done...
brett1868 wrote:So you're after something bigger then a .308 and capable of reasonable accuracy @ 600yds, plenty of choices out there. What sort of budget do you have and do you reload?
AusTac wrote:brett1868 wrote:So you're after something bigger then a .308 and capable of reasonable accuracy @ 600yds, plenty of choices out there. What sort of budget do you have and do you reload?
Brett be like get a .416 barrett
, is a good one.AusTac wrote: Have you ever done any long range stuff? I'm by no means any kind of expert, but shooting and killing an aninal at range is a tough shot...
sungazer wrote:There really is no reason for a 338L other than I want one the 300WM really is more than enough for anything other than very specialized competitions. Which there are only a couple of each year in the entire country.
Archie wrote:Someone gave me a really good rule once. I think it makes a lot of sense.
You take a dinner plate sized target. You take one box of ammo. You use the stance you are likely to use in the field - i.e. off hand standing, kneeling, tree/fence as a rest etc - not a bench, and probably not prone unless you know that's how you will be placed. If so, fair enough.
You shoot the full box. When you can - without having shot earlier in the day and getting your eye in, with a cold barrel etc - get 19 of those 20 rounds in a dinner plate - you have your ethical hunting range. Because that says that under field conditions you have a 95% chance of a clean kill shot.
(edit - and some people would say a dinner plate is too big. Guess it depends on the animal, and on the plate).
Archie wrote:Someone gave me a really good rule once. I think it makes a lot of sense.
You take a dinner plate sized target. You take one box of ammo. You use the stance you are likely to use in the field - i.e. off hand standing, kneeling, tree/fence as a rest etc - not a bench, and probably not prone unless you know that's how you will be placed. If so, fair enough.
You shoot the full box. When you can - without having shot earlier in the day and getting your eye in, with a cold barrel etc - get 19 of those 20 rounds in a dinner plate - you have your ethical hunting range. Because that says that under field conditions you have a 95% chance of a clean kill shot.
(edit - and some people would say a dinner plate is too big. Guess it depends on the animal, and on the plate).
Archie wrote:Someone gave me a really good rule once. I think it makes a lot of sense.
You take a dinner plate sized target. You take one box of ammo. You use the stance you are likely to use in the field - i.e. off hand standing, kneeling, tree/fence as a rest etc - not a bench, and probably not prone unless you know that's how you will be placed. If so, fair enough.
You shoot the full box. When you can - without having shot earlier in the day and getting your eye in, with a cold barrel etc - get 19 of those 20 rounds in a dinner plate - you have your ethical hunting range. Because that says that under field conditions you have a 95% chance of a clean kill shot.
(edit - and some people would say a dinner plate is too big. Guess it depends on the animal, and on the plate).
sungazer wrote:Most Target shooting is done with a 308 or less in the F open where they can choose any claibre they want for shooting 1000yrds most go for 6.5's and 7s not 30's and defitnatley not the magnums. they just dot have the shootability, recoil, shock wave and other factors detract from accuracy, for shot after shot performance. Ok for a one or two shots but not 36.
Get to know your 308 and on a day with not too much wind I can hit dinner plates no problem at 700. Given reasonable conditions I would not hesitate to take a Sambar at 500-600 with a 185 in a 308.
bladeracer wrote:sungazer wrote:Most Target shooting is done with a 308 or less in the F open where they can choose any claibre they want for shooting 1000yrds most go for 6.5's and 7s not 30's and defitnatley not the magnums. they just dot have the shootability, recoil, shock wave and other factors detract from accuracy, for shot after shot performance. Ok for a one or two shots but not 36.
Get to know your 308 and on a day with not too much wind I can hit dinner plates no problem at 700. Given reasonable conditions I would not hesitate to take a Sambar at 500-600 with a 185 in a 308.
Target shooting is not hunting. The heavy recoil for one or two shots a week is a small trade for more terminal performance.