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Post by newgunner » 02 Apr 2018, 4:37 pm

have my scope set at100m okay now i think
here are some groups from todays shoot at ripley
a couple of flyers from using different ammo
for those of you who shoot factory 223 ,aussie outback 69gr hpbt is very accurate ammo and consistent.
best i've shot expect for hornady 60gr vmax
all the centre groups are aussie outback and the couple of flyers were remington umc and federal power shot
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still room for improvement ,more practice needed
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Post by bigrich » 02 Apr 2018, 5:23 pm

bit more practice old mate and you'll be getting all in under a inch with that sweet tikka of yours :thumbsup:
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Post by deanp100 » 02 Apr 2018, 5:35 pm

Those flyers may not be flyers but maybe just a different poi. With only one fired one fired of each they could very well be amazing.
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Post by bigrich » 02 Apr 2018, 5:40 pm

deanp100 wrote:Those flyers may not be flyers but maybe just a different poi. With only one fired one fired of each they could very well be amazing.


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Post by bigfellascott » 02 Apr 2018, 6:31 pm

Time to go hunt something with it I reckon. :thumbsup:
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Post by newgunner » 02 Apr 2018, 6:59 pm

what causes point of impact to change ? Is it the parallax setting,different hold ,trigger etc or just human error?
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Post by Apollo » 02 Apr 2018, 7:14 pm

With Factory Ammo, all of the above and a lot more. Plus the way you smile when the previous shot hit a center.

Reloading you can discount a few items as long as you are good at rolling your own. Anything can happen at any time to upset the billy cart.

Bit like Target Shooting at 500 Metres when 4 shots are say under 1 inch and the last is 4 inches away. What the F#*k happened there, BUT when they all fall in less than 2 inches you give yourself a pat on the back and hope to hell you can do that for the rest of the day..... :thumbsup:
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Post by Wombat » 02 Apr 2018, 9:11 pm

Different loads behave differently. Different powder, crimp, distance to lands etc change POI from one maker (or even batch) to another.Temperature,and rifle setup can also change POI. If they are consistent you can get tight groups.
That's simplifying things- there are many variables before the shooter gets involved.
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Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 02 Apr 2018, 9:25 pm

I have had a great deal of luck with the 69gr TMK's however not the cheapest to reload but my word consistently on the money.
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Post by duncan61 » 02 Apr 2018, 9:30 pm

4 shots under an inch at 500 metres.Thats good going
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Post by Flyer » 04 Apr 2018, 1:52 pm

AZZA'S HJ47 wrote:I have had a great deal of luck with the 69gr TMK's however not the cheapest to reload but my word consistently on the money.

Care to share your load? I've just worked up some test loads using 69 TMKs for my Sako varmint 1:8 using BM2, 2206H and RL15. That was after having no luck with the new 70gr Nosler RDFs but very good luck with the 53gr Varmageddons (below).

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Some people shoot 3-shot groups, some 4, but when your fifth shot does this at 100m, you can either tear your hair out or resign yourself to user error :roll:
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Post by Gwion » 04 Apr 2018, 5:49 pm

That'd be the Flyier! :lol:

Can't complain too much about that. Might have just got a little excited about the last shot! :drinks:
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Post by Flyer » 04 Apr 2018, 6:02 pm

Hence the name :mrgreen:

Yes, I think I jinxed myself after putting four shots through almost one hole. At least I found my load!
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Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 04 Apr 2018, 9:18 pm

Flyer wrote:
AZZA'S HJ47 wrote:I have had a great deal of luck with the 69gr TMK's however not the cheapest to reload but my word consistently on the money.

Care to share your load? I've just worked up some test loads using 69 TMKs for my Sako varmint 1:8 using BM2, 2206H and RL15. That was after having no luck with the new 70gr Nosler RDFs but very good luck with the 53gr Varmageddons (below).

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Some people shoot 3-shot groups, some 4, but when your fifth shot does this at 100m, you can either tear your hair out or resign yourself to user error :roll:



Ill have a look on the weekend i have been using bench mark 8208.
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Post by Flyer » 05 Apr 2018, 1:00 pm

Appreciated. Looking at the ADI data, 8208 and BM2 are very similar with the 69 grainers - 0.3gr and 10fps at the upper end.
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Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 06 Apr 2018, 12:13 am

Flyer wrote:Appreciated. Looking at the ADI data, 8208 and BM2 are very similar with the 69 grainers - 0.3gr and 10fps at the upper end.


As I have said to a few people have played around with three ot four diffrent powder combos and just keep comming back to 8208. I have even thrown together some 222 rounds with BM8208, 2207 worked well ill se how it goes in thge 222. :drinks:
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Post by Gwion » 06 Apr 2018, 7:01 am

Yep.
BM2 is good, BM8208 is better and more consistent. Never got reliably sub 0.5moa groups in my 223 until i changed from BM2 to 8208.
O.6-0.7moa is still pretty good but 0.4moa without too much effort is better!
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Post by Flyer » 06 Apr 2018, 7:46 pm

What was the change in load from BM2 to 8208? The group above is with 25.2gr of BM2 in ADI cases and BR4 primers. It's been very good in my 1:8 twist 223 Sako Varmint
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Post by Gwion » 07 Apr 2018, 1:31 pm

I'll have to look it up. Need to do some reloading tomorrow so I'll check it up then.
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Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 08 Apr 2018, 1:34 pm

AZZA'S HJ47 wrote:
Flyer wrote:
AZZA'S HJ47 wrote:I have had a great deal of luck with the 69gr TMK's however not the cheapest to reload but my word consistently on the money.

Care to share your load? I've just worked up some test loads using 69 TMKs for my Sako varmint 1:8 using BM2, 2206H and RL15. That was after having no luck with the new 70gr Nosler RDFs but very good luck with the 53gr Varmageddons (below).

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Some people shoot 3-shot groups, some 4, but when your fifth shot does this at 100m, you can either tear your hair out or resign yourself to user error :roll:



Ill have a look on the weekend i have been using bench mark 8208.


22.4gr of 8208 i foung have given me the best results out of my tikka t3x super varmint. Best 5 shot group i have ever shot was .38 @ 100m and best group @ 200 was .7 of a inch its hard to move away from 8208 i havent even experimented with seating depths the way i see it why bother.
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Post by Gwion » 08 Apr 2018, 6:21 pm

Load I was shooting with BM2 was 25.3gn with a 50gn Zmax. Load I am shooting with BM8208 is 25.2gn and same bullet. Couldn't tell you the velocity of the BM2 but I am getting 3150fps from an 18" barrel from the 8208.

As for accuracy/precision: I was shooting at 300yds today and on my second string I plugged about 5 consecutive shots into an inch, just outside the 6 ring, then my final two shots of the day into the X ring. My first string of 10 I shot 7 into the 6 ring, including 4x X and second string I shot 5 into the 6 ring, including 3 into the X. At 300yd, the 6 ring is 3" and the X is 1.5" (1moa and 0.5moa respectively). This is off a cheap Atlas copy bi-pod with no rear bag, just shot off the shoulder. Luckily the wind played nice for me but it is a good indication of how that load can shoot. As mentioned previously, off a bench with good rests at 100m it has no probs shooting 0.3moa groups or better if you can shoot it better.
Also helps that the rifle is a semi custom build but only out of cheap part: how barrel on a Zastave mini mauser action with a cheap Vortex Diamondback scope.
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Post by Flyer » 08 Apr 2018, 8:46 pm

Thanks guys - that's very interesting. I'm getting a chronoed 3200fps from my 25.2 BM2 load out of a 24" barrel. The 53gr Varmageddons/V-maxes (interchangeable with this load) are seated at mag length, or 2.275" OAL.
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