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Re: 300 black out

Post by Boomstick Bonanza » 06 Dec 2016, 1:15 pm

Aussier wrote:
You can't help but roll the eyes a bit though when some knob bought one because it's "cool" and with the sub-sonic .30 cal tells themselves they're an honorary member of the SWAT urban sniper team :lol:


They'd still use the faithful .308 I dare say.
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Re: 300 black out

Post by in2anity » 06 Dec 2016, 4:55 pm

bladeracer wrote:
in2anity wrote:
Boomstick Bonanza wrote:If you don't mind casting your own bullets you can load a blackout subsonic for next to nothing


Or you could just pick yourself up some coated projectiles from:

http://www.hrbc.com.au/

OR

http://www.westcastings.org/

OR

http://www.topscore.com.au/

Although I've had a few accuracy issues with .30 cal coated projectiles; I thinking lubing them might be the answer though... (work in progress)



What do they cost?
The only reason to shoot cast lead is their cost, seems pointless to buy them?


A helluva lot cheaper than jacketed rounds. Around $70 for 500 which is a fifth of the price of jacketed, even better if you buy larger quantities. Pair this with an economical powder like Trail Boss and anneal your brass, and you're looking at well under 50c per round. Granted it's a little trickier to squeeze the same accuracy out of them, but with a little perseverance it CAN be done.
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Re: 300 black out

Post by bladeracer » 06 Dec 2016, 5:03 pm

in2anity wrote:A helluva lot cheaper than jacketed rounds. Around $70 for 500 which is a fifth of the price of jacketed, even better if you buy larger quantities.



Not too bad I guess.
Costs me about $9 to cast 100 180gn 8mm bullets, or 200 90gn .314" bullets for the .303 and 7.62x54R.
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Re: 300 black out

Post by in2anity » 07 Dec 2016, 7:19 am

bladeracer wrote:
in2anity wrote:A helluva lot cheaper than jacketed rounds. Around $70 for 500 which is a fifth of the price of jacketed, even better if you buy larger quantities.



Not too bad I guess.
Costs me about $9 to cast 100 180gn 8mm bullets, or 200 90gn .314" bullets for the .303 and 7.62x54R.


Yeah that's cheap, I'd love to get into casting my own down the track, I'm sure it's extremely satisfying. But logistically that's just not possible for me at this point of my life (both from a time and space perspective). So buying pre-cast bullets is the best compromise when it comes to cost-cutting measures.
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Re: 300 black out

Post by Wobble » 07 Dec 2016, 12:28 pm

bear foot bowhunter wrote:can anyone give me a idea of what these are capable of hunting , load, range , animal ext.


Because of the muzzle velocity range is limited, but they're still heavy pills which carry some decent punch for that first 100m +

Anything up to and including medium size game inside 150m it'd work fine for.

See a couple of photos here about half way down, 300 AAC Blackout fad over?

Smashes a fallow at 100m, no two ways about it. Check the picture in that topic.

200m and on it looks too slow for my liking, I'd be unenthusiastic about using it on large game too.
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