Cheap 30/30 pills through a 308w bolt

[in2anity]

A few different choices, but because there's no need for GCs (when using Trail Boss), the RNFP 30/30 projectile on the left is a perfectly adequate:

RNFP, RNGC, FBHP, ELD-X

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so, cheap 10gr Trail Boss vs expensive 42gr 2206H:

Cheap vs expensive (RNFP vs ELD-x)

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Typical batch taken to a 50m range, 178grs for 500m rams, 150gr HP for everything else (and hunting), and mostly 165gr lead for plinking:

Mostly plinkers with a few jacketed

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This is a typical 10 shot group using the cheap 30/30 projectiles:

RNFP (30/30) over 10gr Trail Boss

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Using the official silhouette vectors, I scaled all the targets to the correct size for a 50m persepctive:

50m silhouette stencil

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The stencil in action:

600gsm black card from Officeworks

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End result, 30c a shot practising high-power metallic silhouette without breaking the budget (and avoiding unnecessary wear on the rifle) :

50m

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[bladeracer]

Nice work.
I've been thinking of making stencils myself, but for now I just trace the steels and cut them out.
I just stick them to 3mm MDF sheets as I don't want them to contrast too much against the background - that's part of the challenge of silhouette.
I've also considered scaling them down to shoot them closer but I think it's important that the sight picture includes the loss of detail that comes with distance, the turkey is particularly difficult to see clearly I find. And the bullet drop is a very important aspect as well, although not so much if you have sights you can dial-in to a dead-on hold at each range.

I shot these yesterday. The chicken is a low hold 50mm below the foot, the pig is held on the bottom of the belly, the turkey the top of the back, and the ram dead-on.
My ribs are still preventing .44 Mag practice but I need to cut out some full-size silhouettes as well.
The one-fifth scale silhouettes are pretty tough, but at least you can use a scope on those.

I'm expecting a Williams FP336 adjustable peep for the Marlin this week and I want to see if I can mount it to the Norinco as well. It's fully adjustable so I need to log elevation settings for the various ranges and print a table to stick to the butt stock for reference.

[in2anity]

Nice work.
I've been thinking of making stencils myself, but for now I just trace the steels and cut them out.
I just stick them to 3mm MDF sheets as I don't want them to contrast too much against the background - that's part of the challenge of silhouette.
I've also considered scaling them down to shoot them closer but I think it's important that the sight picture includes the loss of detail that comes with distance, the turkey is particularly difficult to see clearly I find. And the bullet drop is a very important aspect as well, although not so much if you have sights you can dial-in to a dead-on hold at each range.

I shot these yesterday. The chicken is a low hold 50mm below the foot, the pig is held on the bottom of the belly, the turkey the top of the back, and the ram dead-on.
My ribs are still preventing .44 Mag practice but I need to cut out some full-size silhouettes as well.
The one-fifth scale silhouettes are pretty tough, but at least you can use a scope on those.

I'm expecting a Williams FP336 adjustable peep for the Marlin this week and I want to see if I can mount it to the Norinco as well. It's fully adjustable so I need to log elevation settings for the various ranges and print a table to stick to the butt stock for reference.

I tried to do holdovers at the start, but found my scores were significantly better if I re-zeroed at each bank, most competitors do this. I also started with a plain FP-336 on my Marlin 336, only to realise I needed the long target knob and finger-adjustable gib lock. Makes it field adjustable without any tools, which is helpful for the 15 second "ready" period where you adjust your sights for the next distance. Also I needed a high front sight to go with it. I've now memorised the locations on the little ladder for distances all the way out to 300m - perfect for hunting, I pretty much tweak the elevation for every shot!

Blade what distance you been shooting that target at? Or have you been moving it out for each animal?

[bladeracer]

I tried to do holdovers at the start, but found my scores were significantly better if I re-zeroed at each bank, most competitors do this. I also started with a plain FP-336 on my Marlin 336, only to realise I needed the long target knob and finger-adjustable gib lock. Makes it field adjustable without any tools. Also I needed a high front sight to match. I've now memorised the locations on the little ladder for distances out to 300m - perfect for hunting, I pretty much tweak the elevation for every shot!

Blade what distance you been shooting that target at? Or have you been moving it out for each animal?

I think zeroing to hold dead-on does work better.
This is the sight I'm awaiting - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Williams-FP-336-Receiver-Peep-Sight-with-Target-Knobs-for-Marlin-336-1894/122775522726

I set the targets up but I shoot from different ranges. I can get to 500m here but generally I shoot at 200m or less.

[in2anity]

I tried to do holdovers at the start, but found my scores were significantly better if I re-zeroed at each bank, most competitors do this. I also started with a plain FP-336 on my Marlin 336, only to realise I needed the long target knob and finger-adjustable gib lock. Makes it field adjustable without any tools. Also I needed a high front sight to match. I've now memorised the locations on the little ladder for distances out to 300m - perfect for hunting, I pretty much tweak the elevation for every shot!

Blade what distance you been shooting that target at? Or have you been moving it out for each animal?

I think zeroing to hold dead-on does work better.
This is the sight I'm awaiting - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Williams-FP-336-Receiver-Peep-Sight-with-Target-Knobs-for-Marlin-336-1894/122775522726

I set the targets up but I shoot from different ranges. I can get to 500m here but generally I shoot at 200m or less.

Yeah nice Blade, the TK version is perfect. See how you go, but I reckon the 962-000-079WB Target Elevation Gib Lock Knob may be of value to that sight: https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tool ... 27362.aspx (to quickly lock and unlock your elevation). You can order it through brownells AUS. It's a really good little sight - I paired mine with a Lyman 17AHB .404 and I've taken smallish medium varmint at 250m with it (oops probably a little "unethical" but heck it worked!)

[bladeracer]

Yeah nice Blade, the TK version is perfect. See how you go, but I reckon the 962-000-079WB Target Elevation Gib Lock Knob may be of value to that sight: https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tool ... 27362.aspx (to quickly lock and unlock your elevation). You can order it through brownells AUS. It's a really good little sight - I paired mine with a Lyman 17AHB .404 and I've taken smallish medium varmint at 250m with it (oops probably a little "unethical" but heck it worked!)

Thanks for the tip, I'll ask Bruce about that. I'm already asking him to sort some other items that are not listed on the Au portal.

[in2anity]

Thanks for the tip, I'll ask Bruce about that. I'm already asking him to sort some other items that are not listed on the Au portal.

Blade here's a close up of the gib-lock (set @ 200m):

200m setting

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[bladeracer]

Blade here's a close up of the gib-lock (set @ 200m):

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Will the sight not stay set without the lock screw?

[Gamerancher]

Short answer, no.

[Norton]

This is a typical 10 shot group using the cheap 30/30 projectiles:

Cracker mate

[in2anity]

Cracker mate

Thanks mate it's a boringly accurate rifle TBH; when it comes to the real deal (I.e. jacketed) anything I feed it (and more importantly any load) is way more than adequate for metallic silhouette shooting (i.e. standing offhand) which is great, because I don't like to run my rifles at max pressure. Because of how inherently accurate the rifle is, there's no issues just using starting loads (which only output around 40,000psi). Horses for courses

[Oldbloke]

Ummmm, why don't you cast your own?

[in2anity]

Ummmm, why don't you cast your own?

I’d really love to OB but I don’t have the space (townhouse) or time (young kids). Some day down the track though hopefully once my kids are all grown up and I can escape the big smoke

[Oldbloke]

Ummmm, why don't you cast your own?

I’d really love to OB but I don’t have the space (townhouse) or time (young kids). Some day down the track though hopefully once my kids are all grown up and I can escape the big smoke

Yes, too bad. You can't really cast indoors due to lead vapours.