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New 6mmARC from Hornady- any use in Australia?

Post by Jarhead » 29 Jun 2020, 1:18 pm

Hey all!

I recently watched Hornady come out with a new round- 6mm ARC. Hornady has some really smart business development managers, and they did their homework before committing to the investment to produce this round.

The target market is clearly the owners of the ubiquitous AR-15 in the US, as it is very easy to convert a .223 AR-15 to 6mmARC- change the bolt, change the barrel, get a new magazine. Boom! You now have 6.5 Creedmoor-like ballistics in a lightweight AR-15 platform. No watermelon is safe at 1000yards!

I am struggling to think of a similar application in Australia.

Can you think of any? The only benefit I can see is same ballistics in a smaller cartridge than most 6.5's so powder, brass and projectile costs should be less.

I am sometimes dense and shortsighted so am reaching out to the group to help find any other advantages for shooters green and gold.
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Re: New 6mmARC from Hornady- any use in Australia?

Post by snag » 29 Jun 2020, 5:33 pm

We have watermelons here too.
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Post by TassieTiger » 29 Jun 2020, 5:54 pm

In my opinion - it’s about the marketing $$$.
243 hasn’t had much attention of late, can we do a spin off to generate some buzz ?
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Re: New 6mmARC from Hornady- any use in Australia?

Post by Jarhead » 29 Jun 2020, 6:53 pm

LOL Snag. No disagreement there.

Hornady may next try for a super high BC round that can hit an Australian watermelon from the US with an AR-15 derivative...…

Tassie, you are showing your age! So am I when I agree with you 100% about .243 :D
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Re: New 6mmARC from Hornady- any use in Australia?

Post by Bill » 29 Jun 2020, 7:02 pm

its an interesting concept and the case has been designed for high BC 103gr - 108gr projectiles at moderate speed 2750-2800fps.

Light recoiling it would an efficient and easy to shoot cartridge. If Howa bring out a HB mini action Id be tempted.. :thumbsup:
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Post by marksman » 29 Jun 2020, 9:36 pm

its copycat of robert whitley's 6mmar, the 6mm arc is hornady's copy without giving any credit as usual
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/202 ... -platform/
http://6mmar.com/Page_1.html
https://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek068.html
aussies cant use ar15 rifles so l cant see a real area for the 6mmar or 6mm arc
robert whitley is a very very cluey bloke who has improved many cartridges, l hold his opinion very highly and have a couple of his reamer designs
you might as well have a 6mm br as they cannot keep up with the 6mm dasher and is no way near as inherently accurate of either
no ar15 and its a waste of time :thumbsdown: just as Tassie said its about the marketing $$$
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Post by Bill » 29 Jun 2020, 10:21 pm

marksman I get what your saying but has the 6mm br or 6mm ar ever been adopted by a mainstream ammo manufacturer or rifle maker ? cheap ammo, components and rifles are what punters want.
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Post by marksman » 29 Jun 2020, 10:48 pm

the 6mm br is a factory offering Bill, cooper, savage and remington come to mind but as l said earlier the 6mm ar is for an ar15 rifle
it would not cost much to have any 243 factory chamber cut off and re-chambered to 6mm br, ar or the arc if the smith has the reamer

the 6mm br is a much better case to work with https://www.6mmbr.com/6brfaq.html
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Post by Bill » 30 Jun 2020, 8:20 am

marksman I knew savage sold em a bit surprised Remington was selling them. Thats a fairly limited offering.

the other side of the equation is loaded ammo and cheap dies ? not sure the BR does well there but lets see what Hornday come up with.

I understand why the 6mm BR is a good design for the longer range stuff but short and fat case will reduce round capacity in small light actions like Howa mini's.

Packaging and marketing just as important as performance. :thumbsup:
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Post by marksman » 30 Jun 2020, 11:19 am

Bill wrote:marksman I knew savage sold em a bit surprised Remington was selling them. Thats a fairly limited offering.

the other side of the equation is loaded ammo and cheap dies ? not sure the BR does well there but lets see what Hornday come up with.

I understand why the 6mm BR is a good design for the longer range stuff but short and fat case will reduce round capacity in small light actions like Howa mini's.

Packaging and marketing just as important as performance. :thumbsup:


to you :thumbsup: :lol: :clap: :clap: :clap: good luck :drinks:
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Post by SCJ429 » 30 Jun 2020, 7:30 pm

Bill wrote:marksman I knew savage sold em a bit surprised Remington was selling them. Thats a fairly limited offering.

the other side of the equation is loaded ammo and cheap dies ? not sure the BR does well there but lets see what Hornday come up with.

I understand why the 6mm BR is a good design for the longer range stuff but short and fat case will reduce round capacity in small light actions like Howa mini's.

Packaging and marketing just as important as performance. :thumbsup:

Lapua made loaded ammo for the straight 6mm BR, and the case can do well at all sorts of ranges not just longer range. It gets beaten at 100 and 200 metres by one case design, the all conquering PPC.

Strangely no one complains about the magazine capacity of the AK47 which uses a case very similar to the PPC. The 7.62x39 is short and fat but used in a majority of military applications over the last 50 years.
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Post by JimTom » 30 Jun 2020, 7:45 pm

I’d give it a crack. Agreed it probably won’t do anything several other cartridges wont already do but it would have an application for some people I guess, just as the 6.5 Brittany does. Probably reinventing the wheel just as they did with the 450 bushmaster and 350 legend.
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Post by Cooper » 30 Jun 2020, 8:01 pm

If Howa bring out a Mini action in 6mm ARC. I will probably get one. I already have a 6.5 Grendel. But I don’t have anything in 6mm.

I reckon the 6mm ARC might go aright with 75gr to 87gr Vmax as a hunting cartridge. Time will tell.
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Post by marksman » 30 Jun 2020, 9:02 pm

Cooper wrote:If Howa bring out a Mini action in 6mm ARC. I will probably get one. I already have a 6.5 Grendel. But I don’t have anything in 6mm.

I reckon the 6mm ARC might go aright with 75gr to 87gr Vmax as a hunting cartridge. Time will tell.


why wait :unknown: buy a barrel and get your grendel made into a switch barrel with 6mm ar, it is the same as the arc :thumbsup:
doing this will get you a better quality barrel with the twist needed for the bullets you want to shoot as well as the chamber can be match consistency
you can get the quality lapua grendel brass to easily convert and have a 2 in 1 rifle simples
check out how easy it is to make the cases in the video at the bottom of the 6mm AR home page http://www.6mmar.com/
if thats what floats your boat find a smith with the reamer and go for it :drinks:
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Post by Bill » 01 Jul 2020, 6:19 pm

An interesting review and performance comparison of the 6mm ARC :drinks:

https://gununiversity.com/6mm-arc-review/
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Post by straightshooter » 02 Jul 2020, 8:28 am

Really great marketing move.
Rebadge a 6mm PPC as a 6mm ARC with some insignificant additional tinkering.
Why do I so cynically believe that shooters as a group are the biggest suckers for marketing hype in existence?
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Post by marksman » 02 Jul 2020, 12:41 pm

straightshooter wrote:Really great marketing move.
Rebadge a 6mm PPC as a 6mm ARC with some insignificant additional tinkering.
Why do I so cynically believe that shooters as a group are the biggest suckers for marketing hype in existence?


l agree to that, may be something to do with mines bigger than yours :wtf: and hey mine is :thumbsup:
l can prove what you are saying by the amount of crap l have in the shed that the salesman told me would make a difference that l believed :oops:
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Post by BangBangSkeetSkeet » 02 Jul 2020, 12:51 pm

straightshooter wrote:Why do I so cynically believe that shooters as a group are the biggest suckers for marketing hype in existence?


I reckon fishermen would give shooters a run for our money.

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