MAC13 wrote:Hi guys,
I have a Ruger Ranch rifle in 223/5.56.
my issue is i cant seem to shoot it constantly.
while shooting a target it's ok.but not that good .As soon as I try to shoot a fox or something. I seem to jerk the trigger. it has been adjusted by my local gun smith.
but it's still heavy trigger to squeeze.
I'm not sure if I should buy a new trigger or just get rid of the rifle.
Stix wrote:MAC13 wrote:Hi guys,
I have a Ruger Ranch rifle in 223/5.56.
my issue is i cant seem to shoot it constantly.
while shooting a target it's ok.but not that good .As soon as I try to shoot a fox or something. I seem to jerk the trigger. it has been adjusted by my local gun smith.
but it's still heavy trigger to squeeze.
I'm not sure if I should buy a new trigger or just get rid of the rifle.
The way i read your post, you have 2, or maybe even 3 issues...
1--the trigger is heavy
2--you are suffering a good deal of anxiety/(buck fever) when shooting live animals, that is causing you to yank at the trigger...
--if i interpret right, you may be missing or injuring the game you shoot because of this...?
(no harm in being honest here... )
And maybe 3--the rifle aint that accurate.
Id suggest practice & be very aware of the "feel" of the trigger, & when in front of a fox, dont rush the shot...take your time, as much as is needed to get that adrenal gland to stop pumping electricity through your system..be aware of your breathing & heart rate ...then when you are settled, concentrate on that reticle being steady & "feel" that trigger as you gently squeeze until it goes orf..
Dont worry if it gets away--if a fox gets away without you having fired a shot, you'll have a much better chance of getting it next time, & learning to controll yourself will pay dividends soon enough.
What sort of groups are you getting at what distance, out of the rifle at the range...?
...& can you put up some pics...?
Personally, i think if you are suffering buck fever badly enough that your accuracy is considerably worse than off a bench under no pressure, you wont help yourself at all with a lighter trigger...
Because to be blunt, if you shoot 1.5 inch groups at 100m off a bench, but miss a fox at 80 metres, its not a trigger weight issue...
You need to get the buck fever out of the way &/or learn to controll the trigger while experiencing that change in your physiology...& a heavier trigger is good for learning that controll.
in2anity wrote:The combs are low on the Rugers; not great for a high-set scope. To compensate, I added a kydex cheek riser. I also added a Timney Trigger, a muzzle break, a larger more ergonomic bolt knob. I sanded the barrel channel to better free float the barrel. I fibre-glassed the honeycomb forend to stiffen it. I glass bedded the recoil lugs.
Last but not least, for out in the sticks, I added my favorite quick-entry stabilising sling called a "safari ching sling":
Learning to effectively use a stabilising sling is IMO one of the most important aspects of practical marksmanship - somewhat of a lost art in the modern era of "lazy shooting". I shoot service and non-service 3-P every Saturday, and to omit the sling, even in the standing offhand postion, is kinda laughable. Simple, no sling = low score.
USMC Gunny Carlos Hathcock had a small piece of paper which he called his “Bible”. It consists of a credit card sized list of instructions for proper marksmanship. The tips were simply put as follows:
Body Alignment – Natural Point Of Aim
Firm Hand Shake Grip
Firm In Shoulder
Eye Relief – Spot Weld – No Shadow
Stare At Crosshairs – Target Is A Blur
Slow Steady Pressure On Trigger To Rear
Normal Respiratory Pause
Follow Thru
Practise makes permanent.
Stix wrote:
Do you have or have shot a Howa mini action...???
How do these Rugers compare to the howa...(i ask out of curiosity as one day id like to get a short barrel spotlighting rig set up...ive had a few shots out of a Howa Mini & the shorter barrel was absolute bliss when it came to switching windows to shoot out of...Switching windows to shoot out of in a hurry with my Tikka is like a short episode of Mr Bean goes spotlighting... )
I dont like the Mag catch on the Howa though---it hits the door rest & the mag drops out--pretty poor design i think...
Happy to hear from anyone here...& i dont mean to hijack a thread but im only after a quick answer,,,
in2anity wrote:The combs are low on the Rugers; not great for a high-set scope. To compensate, I added a kydex cheek riser. I also added a Timney Trigger, a muzzle break, a larger more ergonomic bolt knob. I sanded the barrel channel to better free float the barrel. I fibre-glassed the honeycomb forend to stiffen it. I glass bedded the recoil lugs.
Last but not least, for out in the sticks, I added my favorite quick-entry stabilising sling called a "safari ching sling":
Learning to effectively use a stabilising sling is IMO one of the most important aspects of practical marksmanship - somewhat of a lost art in the modern era of "lazy shooting". I shoot service and non-service 3-P every Saturday, and to omit the sling, even in the standing offhand postion, is kinda laughable. Simple, no sling = low score.
USMC Gunny Carlos Hathcock had a small piece of paper which he called his “Bible”. It consists of a credit card sized list of instructions for proper marksmanship. The tips were simply put as follows:
Body Alignment – Natural Point Of Aim
Firm Hand Shake Grip
Firm In Shoulder
Eye Relief – Spot Weld – No Shadow
Stare At Crosshairs – Target Is A Blur
Slow Steady Pressure On Trigger To Rear
Normal Respiratory Pause
Follow Thru
Practise makes permanent.
Tubs wrote:Put a red dot n magnifier on it!
in2anity wrote:Tubs wrote:Put a red dot n magnifier on it!
That would be great too! Although a little scope works well on the little girl - here's my mate shooting the blackout out to 520m:
https://youtu.be/9urwpURf3aI
Tubs wrote:Nice shootin' Tex! Does the 223 have the same barrel profile? Was looking at a BCL Bison then I saw the Ranch, looks like a great little carbine
in2anity wrote:Tubs wrote:Nice shootin' Tex! Does the 223 have the same barrel profile? Was looking at a BCL Bison then I saw the Ranch, looks like a great little carbine
I think it’s the same - about 0.75” just before the threads. Means you may even get more meat than the 30cal because it’s a smaller hole.
My criticisms of that rifle are 1) weak ejector 2) crude push feeding. Nevertheless they are quite cheap.
Tubs wrote:It's either that or a Howa I think
in2anity wrote:Tubs wrote:It's either that or a Howa I think
Howas are a bit better overall I found. I guess the mini action is what you’re looking at? There are more of them, in field positional that there are Rugers. Probs good to shoulder both of them before buying.
in2anity wrote:Tubs wrote:Nice shootin' Tex! Does the 223 have the same barrel profile? Was looking at a BCL Bison then I saw the Ranch, looks like a great little carbine
I think it’s the same - about 0.75” just before the threads. Means you may even get more meat than the 30cal because it’s a smaller hole. So more stiffness. They are accurate, but lack in velocity. This hurts on a blustery/fishy day beyond 100m.
My criticisms of that rifle are 1) weak ejector 2) crude push feeding. Nevertheless they are quite cheap.