gunderson wrote:I mean... Every F class shooter I know that used to push 7.62 pills out of the 308 is either pushing 338 or 308 out of magnums now or is pushing 6 and 6.5 rounds downrange. I only know one that is still using a 308 on the range, the guns are just as much money, and wank, as the open class calibers, and well he hunts with a 30-06.
I'm not entirely s**ting on the 308, but when it comes to long range, there are literally heaps of better calibers. Depending on how recoil sensitive you are.
Larry wrote:gunderson wrote:I mean... Every F class shooter I know that used to push 7.62 pills out of the 308 is either pushing 338 or 308 out of magnums now or is pushing 6 and 6.5 rounds downrange. I only know one that is still using a 308 on the range, the guns are just as much money, and wank, as the open class calibers, and well he hunts with a 30-06.
I'm not entirely s**ting on the 308, but when it comes to long range, there are literally heaps of better calibers. Depending on how recoil sensitive you are.
I am sorry that is just not true. The 308 classes are just as popular as the open class and not many people actually change classes at all.
Larry wrote:Thats is being generous even assuming that none of the sporter shooters are using a 308.
gunderson wrote:I feel this has gotten a fair way down the strawman lane..... But I tell ya, paper punching ain't my thing, been there, done that, I prefer removing the life essence from the living varmints far more; and frankly don't have time for the range or the politics that it entails.
in2anity wrote:gunderson wrote:I feel this has gotten a fair way down the strawman lane..... But I tell ya, paper punching ain't my thing, been there, done that, I prefer removing the life essence from the living varmints far more; and frankly don't have time for the range or the politics that it entails.
Then just get the 308 then
gunderson wrote:I feel this has gotten a fair way down the strawman lane..... But I tell ya, paper punching ain't my thing, been there, done that, I prefer removing the life essence from the living varmints far more; and frankly don't have time for the range or the politics that it entails.
However numbers don't lie, and if I was pushing out past 500m I would be using a heavy hitting 6.5 or 6mm over a 308 all day long. The reason is simple, the cost of a custom built 308 and a custom built PRC etc is roughly the same. reloading wise, much the same, and nowadays data on loads, trajectory, BC etc etc is all readily available from the manufacturers.
does this disqualify the 308? no... but one is genuinely flatter and better at dealing with wind, so that would be my choice.
in2anity wrote:gunderson wrote:I feel this has gotten a fair way down the strawman lane..... But I tell ya, paper punching ain't my thing, been there, done that, I prefer removing the life essence from the living varmints far more; and frankly don't have time for the range or the politics that it entails.
Then just get the 308 then
deye243 wrote:
You obviously have no idea about barrel life not everyone can afford a new barrel every 12 months .
gunderson wrote:deye243 wrote:
You obviously have no idea about barrel life not everyone can afford a new barrel every 12 months .
I didn't know barrel life was an issue that OP was concerned with, few of my mates who used to shoot 308 F class all claimed a 1500 round ceiling on their barrels, so if you're shooting on the regular, that's a new barrel pretty often either way. And I am not in any way attacking someone's knowledge or credibility, but if blokes I know in the flesh tell me that, and I see them doing so, I am gonna take their word over an internet person all day long.
SCJ429 wrote:Depends what floats your boat, go with the sensible boring option or go with something that you are passionate about. Do you drive a Toyota Corolla or a Toyota 86?