1290 wrote:Anyone that understands anything about ballistics, basics your mind should be capable of assemling with logic (small bullets-small things, lots of small bullets flying things, big bullets-big things, biger bullets bigger things, fast, slow) and firearms (rifles / shotguns) generally will have no issue grasping the concept of why an individual interested in a diverse array of shooting activities, will by necessity require different firearms, sometimes multiples in the same configuation and/or chambering....Want to shoot fast moving flying or running things, whether animals or not, you probably need at least one shotgun. Want to shoot further out or less mobile targets, you'll start with a 22 rimfire then further than a reasonable distance or size, a centrefire is necessary. Want to hunt medium stuff, bigger stuff... there's a reason why there exist a multitude of different firearm types and chamberings commonly within the range of 0.17 up to 0.51calibre. also smaller/bigger.....
Most reasonably intelligent people, whether or not golfers, would understand the golfing analogy maybe they've seen the news reports of the drive, with a longer heavier club... seen the chip from the bunker with the wedgey shaped thing... the putting, the stuff in the middle with the other clubs and of course the guy or girl lugging the bag with a dozen or so different club.....yet golfer arent asked why?........ so those people cant use a reasonable amount of intelligence to figure out the parallel / association, and why maybe more than 1 gun is required?
So what I'm saying is that anyone who asks "why you need" or states that "you don't need more than one" or even 2 firearms, is displaying a great level of ignorance in the basics of shooting and firearms....and golf...that doesnt deserve a response other than a suggestion to possibly learn a few thing about shooting then come back and ask if you have any further questions (by that stage they may even wish to have a go!!).
Any suggestion by the Greens that individuals should be limited to 3 or 2 or 1 firearm, is simply a step in their Fabian (google it, go on) conquest of the firearm question, that means slowly but surely they seek to achieve their objective of total disarmament. The INTERMEDIATE step is gun-control, controlling the number, ultimately, disarming. Hence the United Nation has an office of disarmament, not an office of gun-control
http://www.un.org/disarmament/
The Office promotes:
........Disarmament efforts in the area of conventional weapons, especially landmines and small arms......
Make no mistake what the objectives are, 3 months ago the global arms trade treaty was finally ratified after years of global negotiation. The treaty requires national legislation to be implemented!!, and now we hear rumours of committees calling for national changes..oh but its only global transfers, right....I say buckle up.
I think that once shooters feel the need to justify multiple firearm (except where necessitated by law, on a PTA) it demonstrate a certain level surrender to the gungrabbers...dont give in by floundering for an answer.
We all need to pay attention to these treaties entered into, what they are using as a trojan horse to bring in tougher firearm law - terrorism-. We need to keep on top of what our respective state police ministers are discussing at their love fest, previously known as the APMC (Australasian police ministers council) infamously known for the 1996 National Firearms Agreement, now the 'Ministerial Council for Police and Emergency Management'.... I beleive the MCPEM has recommended changes at the recent COAG (premiers and Prime Minister love-in) hence the SFP 'disclosure'......
Ok why do you personally have more than one firearm
cooker wrote:Ok why do you personally have more than one firearm
Because NZ laws let me have better toys![]()
Sorry
bentaz wrote:I don't fish or golf and as such think they should be banned, if not, those criminals that do should be restricted to only one "golf bat" and they can use it for fishing as well!![]()
Faedy wrote:Wow, while researching 375 Ruger, I stumbled upon this..
How things have accelerated in 10 yrs..
wrenchman wrote:I myself think why should you have to tell anyone why if you re not hurting anyone or breaking any laws with the gun it is fine to have as many as you want and just because you want it should be good
MeccaOz wrote:Laffin I mean I know I prolly should should have put it better. I just wanted to know what and why you chose what you did
Me - example
308 bolt action : everything from dogs to Donkeys
.22 lever action : rabbits, the odd fox
.357 lever action: pigs in tight bush
9mm semi: IPSC
303 bolt: Nostalgia
And remember Im not your wife, so all answers are perfectly valid lol
bigrich wrote:Faedy wrote:Wow, while researching 375 Ruger, I stumbled upon this..
How things have accelerated in 10 yrs..
Can you elaborate on how things have accelerated please?
Peterwho wrote:bigrich wrote:Faedy wrote:Wow, while researching 375 Ruger, I stumbled upon this..
How things have accelerated in 10 yrs..
Can you elaborate on how things have accelerated please?
In my case, I accelerated from 0 to .177, .22 pellet, 17hmr, 22lr, 222, 243, 6.5x55 (x2), 25-06, 270, 303-270, 7mm rem mag, 308, 9.3x62, 404j, 12g
As to why, I can I could I did and it was fun
bigrich wrote:
the cost of running my rifles is becoming a consideration. I would like to build up a 35 whelen, but the cost of projectiles is getting expensive. It’d be used in comps as well as in the field. But I’ve gone full circle and come back to 308 as an all rounder cause it’s very accurate, affordable and works well on all the medium game I encounter. Scratching around in the bush looking for 6.5x55 brass was annoying. I’ve owned exotic calibers and made brass for them, but keeping things simple and affordable is also a consideration. I do comps as well as hunting, and am a history buff my collection reflects this. I have a krico 22lr with the two stage match trigger ( looks just like a weihrauch hw66), early rem 700 madco barrel 222, tikka t3 223 in b&c stock, rem 700 in 250 savage, late 60’s musgrave 308 FN commercial action, and my sporterised 1880 303 martini. This is a smaller collection than I used to have, with the exception of the martini, they are multi purpose in their use. If I had the finances to own more I would. Especially stuff with a historical nature. This is what suits me if other folks want to collect more I can’t see a problem. But the powers that be think more guns is dangerous . I can see that limits on how many we can own will creep in eventually. A collector license may be a way around this. I know of a dealer in the Brisbane valley who has a collection of over 900 hundred pristine milsurps in a specially converted shipping container. Custom built racks and climate control, it was a magical thing to see. You name it , he had it . Just my humble thoughts and opinions. Have a great day fellas
Vince24 wrote:That was before, when interest rates were low and gun prices were going up, it was making sense to buy for collection rather than leaving excess cash on a poorly remunerated account.
But now, with high interest rates, the market is literally collapsing, at least the market I follow, being the one of old military rifles.
They just don't sell these days.
Probably due to a combination of factors:
- the WA 10 gun story, scaring everyone else
- high interest rates
- inflation on the ammo/reloading components
- older people dying and not that many young people interested?
bladeracer wrote:Are you sure it's not just the owners asking too much for their milsurps? If I saw bargain prices I'd probably grab some more but prices I've seen don't seem to be any lower than they have been, even before Covid.
Vince24 wrote:
However if the question came from, say, my wife then the answer would of necessity be far more conciliatory and diplomatic and might possibly contain the words bargain and investment.
That was before, when interest rates were low and gun prices were going up, it was making sense to buy for collection rather than leaving excess cash on a poorly remunerated account.
But now, with high interest rates, the market is litterally collapsing, at least the market I follow, being the one of old military rifles.
They just don't sell these days.
Probably due to a combination of factors:
- the WA 10 gun story, scaring everyone else
- high interest rates
- inflation on the ammo/reloading components
- older people dying and not that many young people interested?
alexjones wrote:I would agree with that comment that a lot of the older bolt action wood mil spec stuff is of little interest to the younger people who want more polymer tactical pump action type rifles.
303, 8mm mauser and 7.62x54 Russian etc are for the most part for older people. Some people on usedguns want thousands of dollars for some so called "rare" 303 that was produced in limited numbers. Who cares it is just a 303 and there are millions of them. Some people develop emotional attachments to material possessions that are unfounded in reality.
alexjones wrote:I would agree with that comment that a lot of the older bolt action wood mil spec stuff is of little interest to the younger people who want more polymer tactical pump action type rifles.
303, 8mm mauser and 7.62x54 Russian etc are for the most part for older people. Some people on usedguns want thousands of dollars for some so called "rare" 303 that was produced in limited numbers. Who cares it is just a 303 and there are millions of them. Some people develop emotional attachments to material possessions that are unfounded in reality.
bigrich wrote:alexjones wrote:I would agree with that comment that a lot of the older bolt action wood mil spec stuff is of little interest to the younger people who want more polymer tactical pump action type rifles.
303, 8mm mauser and 7.62x54 Russian etc are for the most part for older people. Some people on usedguns want thousands of dollars for some so called "rare" 303 that was produced in limited numbers. Who cares it is just a 303 and there are millions of them. Some people develop emotional attachments to material possessions that are unfounded in reality.
I agree with this statement. I’m emotionally attached to some of mine, and unless they play up and give me the sh!ts , I wouldn’t sell them for thousands. Old cars can be like this too