Wapiti wrote:Appreciate the explanation here mate,
With respect to the '85's having this anomaly, my wife and I have a 308 each as hunting rifles, and we use a 223 Varmint for smaller ferals night time spotlighting.
My best mate has a beautiful walnut stocked long actioned 300WM '85 that when we have hunted together he uses a lot, I use a 300RUM so we have a bit of a magnum fetish too. So, 3 different action lengths of '85.
I wonder about this, as in our rifles, there is nothing to this and has never happened and I can't see how it can? Just to explain, I went out and just had a play just now with ours and empty cases from reloads we've made, put back through, eject out the side... looking from the rear, I reckon the angle up and out is about 1.30 o'clock. Right out the middle of the available opening.
In case it may be an individual scope issue with big turrets, or something else, in our case the 308's have 25mm tube VX3 3.5-10x40's on them, with Leupold one piece "Ringmounts", with the scope objectives just clearing the barrels. The 223 has a VX3 4.5-14x50 with Optilock mounts, again as low as I can get this oversized scope.
The 300WM has a VX5 HD on it in Leupold ringmounts, which to me is a pretty big scope too.
No saying some scope/rifle combinations don't have some empty brass clearance issues, and I have heard this on forums but never actually heard it from the persons that actually own the rifles, so can't see for myself.
I even tried the semi-controlled round feed feature of the '85's, where the case slides under the extractor as the case is completely under it (just before you would start turning the bolt handle down, then pulled back the bolts. No difference.
My wife has an ejection drama when first using the 223 at night when we were clearing some newly 6 foot high feral fenced paddocks, because she wasn't pulling the bolt back hard enough (I had said to try and keep the empties, bad idea). The cases weren't hitting the ejector hard enough to flick them out, so they sat on the top of the next cartridge as she tried to chamber it.
She was used to a Rem 700 Police rifle she used usually, it has a spring powered ejector so forgave that sluggish bolt habit...once she saw it for herself she figured out what she was doing.
Anyway, long winded post here, just thought it relevant to throw in some actual experience with the rifles that is different from other designs, and that the issue you describe certainly isn't present to us. Certainly aren't trying to discredit any other opinion or person.
appreciate your opinion and input mate . the sako issue is when they went to the three lug bolt they had to move the mechanical ejector from a 3 o'clock bolt face position to a 6 0'clock one . changes the ejection angle to being much steeper . the other thing they did when berreta took over was standardising the extractor clearance . how tight the cartridge rim to extractor holding it to the bolt face varies a few thou with different case rim thickness between calibers . 30-06 cases sitting loose on the bolt as opposed to 308 based cases having thicker rims and sitting tighter, for a more positive ejection . i researched this with smiths as well before making the decisions to sell my 85's . having said that my 85 grizzly in 9.3x62 never missed a beat once i turned my scope 90 degrees to the left .
berreta's solution was to advise medium to high scope mounts to counter this problem . i like good cheek weld and used low rings with optilock bases . i don't like to impersonate a giraffe when shooting

if you watch the ozziereviews on sako 85 223 hunter on youtube, watch the bit at the start with him firing and ejecting cases. they come out at a very high angle . 45-60 degrees has been reported on the net . looks close to that i reckon . you'll notice they supplied the rifle to him with high scope rings also. my old two lug L61 30-06 never had a problem with extra low optilocks .flicked cases straight out the side . just sayin....
i've owned a lot of different rifles and calibers and loaded for them all . oddball calibers ,different actions ,with different quirks , but the 85 has a design flaw on long caliber cases .despite being a extremely well made, accurate rifle, the ejection issue soured me on sako's. last time i spoke to my smith he had a 223 85 in his shop for ejection issues . if you and your wife have sako 85's that function well , savour them .
the 90 series sako has a redesgned extraction/ejection system for a reason

a lot of the time cases are hitting scope turrets but flying clear . have a look on the bottom of scope turret for missing paint and/or brass on the turret . just saying .......
