New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by bigfellascott » 11 Jun 2018, 6:26 pm

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southwest shooter wrote:800 meters ?
Your joking right ?
I showed andriy and he just laughed said you australians are crazier than the americans !
Any Howa will do and keep the shots under 400 .


no way are we joking :lol: :lol: or crazier than the americans :lol: :lol: :lol:

I would have picked the 6.5x284 first but the Patty wants to hunt sambar legally
hunting sambar at distance is the only reason I made up a 270wsm, which is a true 7mm
have a look at these crazy yanks shooting at distance with the 6.5x284 :drinks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taRMw9NN8CU


Some nice shooting and great cal in action there! :thumbsup:
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by juststarting » 11 Jun 2018, 10:17 pm

I have recently played with Kimber in 308. Owner got it specifically for that reason, NZ alps, etc. It's on the pricey side, close to $3k, but oh my, it's a crazy lite rifle, like REALLY lite. I loved it.
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by JimTom » 12 Jun 2018, 6:22 am

6.5 variants seem to be the go now for any distance shooting.
Plenty of videos on YouTube showing long range hunting and comparing the caliber to others.
May be worth a look to help you.
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by Archie » 12 Jun 2018, 6:43 am

I have a Kimber in 308. Love it. Carbon fibre stocks weighs less than most 22s. One thing I would say, because the mountain rifles are so light they jump a bit. The gun itself is very accurate and well made but realistically I think 800m is a bit ambitious to reliably hit under field conditions, they just don’t have the same stability as a long range platform with a bit more mass. Great to carry uphill though.
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by straightshooter » 12 Jun 2018, 7:54 am

Patty93 wrote:Gday guys,

Long hours at work = money for new toys...

Want some suggestions on a lightweight, long range (800m) hunting set up for chasing anything from tahr through to sambar and potentially north american game in the future...

Sub MOA, light, sexy, and suitable for these hunts is what i’m looking for, havnt really considered price just yet, suggestions will probably shape that decision.

Cheers lads

My first inclination was to suggest that you go to a custom build if you have a good idea of what you want.
BUT having put up the question on the forum I suspect you don't.

Your conundrum probably can't be answered with a simple response and invites the following comments and questions.

Reliable accuracy at 800 meters, sufficient to hit the vital zones of a thar, is unlikely to be obtained from any lightweight factory rifle no matter how sexy it may be.
Have you ever shot at a true 800 meters?
Have you ever shot at a true 800 meters from a field position without the benefit of prior sighting shots?
Are you able to practice regularly at 800 meters to develop proficiency?
There are many other questions that may be asked not to embarrass you but to help you clarify your thinking and prioritise those features you really want.
If you want to discuss further then PM me.
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by bigpete » 12 Jun 2018, 9:07 am

Ignition custom engineering just built a rifle that was 4.5# in 223
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by Archie » 12 Jun 2018, 9:43 am

bentaz wrote:https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1841_mountain_howitzer&ved=2ahUKEwjogPzhzMzbAhXBy7wKHXqfDB0QFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw2TmEgxOR3CjBkR-OqnAzu9


Probably easier just to upgrade to a grid square removal system. Doesn't need to be too portable if you just erase the mountain.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M270_Mu ... ket_System

These sort of discussions always remind me of when you see those graduated iron sights on pre-WWI bolt actions that range out to 2000 yards. Like, yes, it is perfectly possible... but outside of a very few people, it really isn't probable to land a first round hit in most realistic scenarios.
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by Archie » 12 Jun 2018, 12:31 pm

bentaz wrote:Yeah but for suppressive volley fire those 2000yard iron sights work a treat!
We have an old van at 330m and you can hit it with 22subs, 44mag trailboss loads and 12ga slugs all day long, not tight groups but well enough to harass an enemy position.


Totally. Don't get me wrong, I would stay well under cover if someone was banging away at me with a K98 at 2000 yards. It's just when it comes to hunting my primary concern is not keeping the target's head down so we can flank them.
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by Oldbloke » 12 Jun 2018, 5:15 pm

Frankly, I don't think it's hunting. Even if you could do it reliably. I'll leave it at that.

I'm sure some will disagree but that's my opinion.
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by bigpete » 12 Jun 2018, 6:36 pm

Oldbloke wrote:Frankly, I don't think it's hunting. Even if you could do it reliably. I'll leave it at that.

I'm sure some will disagree but that's my opinion.

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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by TBJ » 12 Jun 2018, 9:49 pm

As a few have suggested have a look at the Kimber Mountain Ascent, I held and played with one at the LGS and it felt way nice, really light, and comes threaded. As others have suggested I have also played with the Sako Carbonlight and that also feels awesome not too sure about the coating on the stock durability but I don't own one so I don't have experience with it, personally I would go the Kimber, its an awesome gun and I love the Pre-64 style action with CRF and 3 pos flag safety, its also cheaper so more money for a better Scope or more toys!
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by Stix » 12 Jun 2018, 11:07 pm

Daddybang wrote:I've never hunted a mountain. ...much meat on them????? :unknown: :lol: :drinks:

Sorry couldn't help myself :drinks:


Ive shot one...2 rounds with the 7-08...
Tuff barstads they are, it didnt move...not even a bludy twitch...!!

Next time i hope to hit the goats instead... :lol:
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by Daddybang » 13 Jun 2018, 6:41 am

Stix wrote:
Daddybang wrote:I've never hunted a mountain. ...much meat on them????? :unknown: :lol: :drinks:

Sorry couldn't help myself :drinks:


Ive shot one...2 rounds with the 7-08...
Tuff barstads they are, it didnt move...not even a bludy twitch...!!

Next time i hope to hit the goats instead... :lol:


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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by Rod_outbak » 13 Jun 2018, 7:41 am

I wonder what they shot that mountain in Hawaii with?

It seems to be thrashing around all over the place!
[And a heck of a lot of the red stuff leaking out as well!]

Maybe the OP needs to ask the LGS in Hawaii as to what mountain rifles they've been selling recently??
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by sungazer » 13 Jun 2018, 8:43 am

Oldbloke wrote:Frankly, I don't think it's hunting. Even if you could do it reliably. I'll leave it at that.

I'm sure some will disagree but that's my opinion.


So whats your thoughts of Shooting Hides with a feeder at 75yrds :) ?
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by Stix » 13 Jun 2018, 10:25 am

sungazer wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:Frankly, I don't think it's hunting. Even if you could do it reliably. I'll leave it at that.

I'm sure some will disagree but that's my opinion.


So whats your thoughts of Shooting Hides with a feeder at 75yrds :) ?


Shopping with trigger time... :lol:
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by Daddybang » 13 Jun 2018, 11:26 am

Stix wrote:
sungazer wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:Frankly, I don't think it's hunting. Even if you could do it reliably. I'll leave it at that.

I'm sure some will disagree but that's my opinion.


So whats your thoughts of Shooting Hides with a feeder at 75yrds :) ?


Shopping with trigger time... :lol:


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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by Oldbloke » 13 Jun 2018, 9:03 pm

sungazer wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:Frankly, I don't think it's hunting. Even if you could do it reliably. I'll leave it at that.

I'm sure some will disagree but that's my opinion.


So whats your thoughts of Shooting Hides with a feeder at 75yrds :) ?


Sorry sungazer I don't understand the question. Can you re-frase please.
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by sungazer » 13 Jun 2018, 9:12 pm

Sorry my attempt at humor. I think this is the other extreme of hunting. A lot of people hut like this in the US and in Europe although I don't think they put out feed in Europe. IMHO this is not hunting. I suppose it could be likened to fishing putting bait out there and waiting. But if I was laying in wait hiding and had an animal at 75yrds calmly eating without a worry. its not a hard shot
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by Bent Arrow » 13 Jun 2018, 9:33 pm

bigpete wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:Frankly, I don't think it's hunting. Even if you could do it reliably. I'll leave it at that.

I'm sure some will disagree but that's my opinion.

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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by Oldbloke » 13 Jun 2018, 9:37 pm

I have no issue with waiting in a hide or in cover. I do it whisking foxes. But combined with a feeder is just cheating/culling.

I’ll ignore all the jokes. Was funny though.

I guess my position is that it isn’t hunting. Call it shooting, culling or vermin eradicating but not hunting. I might add I have no issues with farmers doing this in the case of large pig numbers or other pests.
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by bigpete » 13 Jun 2018, 10:01 pm

Oldbloke wrote:. I do it whisking foxes..



So just how does one go about that ? :D
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by albat » 13 Jun 2018, 10:18 pm

bigpete wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:. I do it whisking foxes..



So just how does one go about that ? :D

dunno but it sounds iffy if he's doing it in a hide :o
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by Stix » 14 Jun 2018, 12:48 am

albat wrote:
bigpete wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:. I do it whisking foxes..



So just how does one go about that ? :D

dunno but it sounds iffy if he's doing it in a hide :o


Must be a kinky thing for old blokes...
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by Oldbloke » 14 Jun 2018, 5:23 am

"I do it whisking foxes"

"Must be a kinky thing for old blokes"

Just looked at it in urban dictionary.

:lol: :lol: Gotta pay that. Bloody spell check. Don't you love it.
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by Stix » 14 Jun 2018, 10:49 am

Yes OB...spell check or fat fingers pressing the letter nezt to thr obe i wsnt... :lol:
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by Member-Deleted » 14 Jun 2018, 12:04 pm

Geez, I'd hate to think what you blokes think of me because I set feeders or dead baits to shoot wild dogs saves me
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by RoginaJack » 14 Jun 2018, 12:08 pm

Hey OB, I'd be a bit careful 'cause over in W.A. a bloke fishing, with empty stubbie in pocket was fined by the boys in blue. So I'm not sure how "whisking with foxes in a hide" would go down. :lol: :lol:

Oh, Any photos? :lol:
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by sungazer » 14 Jun 2018, 12:15 pm

RoginaJack wrote:Hey OB, I'd be a bit careful 'cause over in W.A. a bloke fishing, with empty stubbie in pocket was fined by the boys in blue. So I'm not sure how "whisking with foxes in a hide" would go down. :lol: :lol:

Oh, Any photos? :lol:


What the hell was he fined for? Surely you can have a beer while you fish?
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Re: New gun suggestion - Mountain Hunting Gun

Post by Daddybang » 14 Jun 2018, 12:37 pm

sungazer wrote:
RoginaJack wrote:Hey OB, I'd be a bit careful 'cause over in W.A. a bloke fishing, with empty stubbie in pocket was fined by the boys in blue. So I'm not sure how "whisking with foxes in a hide" would go down. :lol: :lol:

Oh, Any photos? :lol:


What the hell was he fined for? Surely you can have a beer while you fish?


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