22 magnum ammo cost

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Re: 22 magnum ammo cost

Post by Runnymede » 24 Jun 2018, 7:54 am

Hi bladeracer, yes I stand corrected that price did not include sales tax. Sales tax in the state I was in was approximately 6.5% still a pretty cheap deal. Anyway I guess it just comes down to volume...... there is a lot more shooters in the US than here and prices reflect the number of units that are being sold. Anyway it won’t stop me shooting my 22WMR as I find it a great little fox gun.
I didn’t actually check out the price of 22lr as I don’t have one sorry.
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Re: 22 magnum ammo cost

Post by Oldbloke » 24 Jun 2018, 8:00 am

Runnymede wrote:Hi bladeracer, yes I stand corrected that price did not include sales tax. Sales tax in the state I was in was approximately 6.5% still a pretty cheap deal. Anyway I guess it just comes down to volume...... there is a lot more shooters in the US than here and prices reflect the number of units that are being sold. Anyway it won’t stop me shooting my 22WMR as I find it a great little fox gun.
I didn’t actually check out the price of 22lr as I don’t have one sorry.


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Re: 22 magnum ammo cost

Post by bones-350 » 25 Jun 2018, 9:34 pm

I have a 22 mag bolt action rifle but I could swear it's a muzzle loader in disguise.
Winchester 22 mag ammo 1 in 5 case splits and have to use the cleaning rod to eject the stuck case.
Steer well away from Winchester 22 mag ammo.
Gonna get rid of it I think.
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Re: 22 magnum ammo cost

Post by Elmer » 26 Jun 2018, 4:04 pm

Back in the olden days (1985) I could buy a 50 round box of Winchester super x JHPS for 5 bucks from KMart.
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Re: 22 magnum ammo cost

Post by SCJ429 » 26 Jun 2018, 5:14 pm

I remember buying rimfire ammo at Kmart. Don't remember any centerfire but then I only had a rimfire in the early 80's.
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Re: 22 magnum ammo cost

Post by el toro » 20 Jul 2018, 12:49 am

+1 in support of the poor old .22wmr.

Yeah, it's pricey (still spitting about paying $30 for one box of CCI v-max the other day!) but much more neighbour-friendly than .223 on a small block and seems to stop foxes better than the .17HMR I had (which is similar money per shot from memory...).

Any .22 Hornet owners want to chime in on relative noise levels, .22wmr vs. Hornet?
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Re: 22 magnum ammo cost

Post by Runnymede » 20 Jul 2018, 4:44 pm

bones-350 wrote:I have a 22 mag bolt action rifle but I could swear it's a muzzle loader in disguise.
Winchester 22 mag ammo 1 in 5 case splits and have to use the cleaning rod to eject the stuck case.
Steer well away from Winchester 22 mag ammo.
Gonna get rid of it I think.


Bones-350...I think I would be getting a gunsmith to check your 22WMR as I have shot 1000,s rounds of Winchester ammo through my Ruger and have never had the issue you describe. Do you get split cases with other brands?
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Re: 22 magnum ammo cost

Post by RoginaJack » 20 Jul 2018, 5:14 pm

:huh: Noise levels :wtf: ? but we can reload 22 hornet... :D
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Re: 22 magnum ammo cost

Post by Bills Shed » 20 Jul 2018, 10:03 pm

el toro wrote:+1 in support of the poor old .22wmr.

Yeah, it's pricey (still spitting about paying $30 for one box of CCI v-max the other day!) but much more neighbour-friendly than .223 on a small block and seems to stop foxes better than the .17HMR I had (which is similar money per shot from memory...).

Any .22 Hornet owners want to chime in on relative noise levels, .22wmr vs. Hornet?


Ref the noise level, I have been doing a lot of testing with trail boss. Definatly lower noise levels. With the 17 Hornet it was no louder than a 22LR but could only do 2000 F/S with a 20gn pill and they preformed poorly at that lower velocity. Knock down power was minimal and shot placement was everything. Very little cross section on that little 17 pill! The 22 hornet was a pleasure to shoot but with the same case capacity and a projectile twice a heavy, 40gn, velocities were really low, but when it hit, it was a stopper. A .224 diameter round nose projectile at low velocity still hits hard. The 233 with a 40 gn was perfect. No more noise than a 17 WSM and with a 40gn pill velocity was still above 2000f/s. Far cheaper for me to run the reduced loads in the 223 than the cost of 22 mag ammo. :drinks:

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Re: 22 magnum ammo cost

Post by Stix » 21 Jul 2018, 1:18 pm

RJ & Bill are on the money...!!
Hornet & 223 can reload/load em down for cheap...
I run the trailboss in a 204 & experimenting with it in 22-250 atm just for fun...
They will give out hornet type velocities, & for $30 i can load a lot of relatively quiet rounds for each of them. :thumbsup:
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Re: 22 magnum ammo cost

Post by bladeracer » 21 Jul 2018, 1:30 pm

Bills Shed wrote:Ref the noise level, I have been doing a lot of testing with trail boss. Definatly lower noise levels. With the 17 Hornet it was no louder than a 22LR but could only do 2000 F/S with a 20gn pill and they preformed poorly at that lower velocity. Knock down power was minimal and shot placement was everything. Very little cross section on that little 17 pill! The 22 hornet was a pleasure to shoot but with the same case capacity and a projectile twice a heavy, 40gn, velocities were really low, but when it hit, it was a stopper. A .224 diameter round nose projectile at low velocity still hits hard. The 223 with a 40 gn was perfect. No more noise than a 17 WSM and with a 40gn pill velocity was still above 2000f/s. Far cheaper for me to run the reduced loads in the 223 than the cost of 22 mag ammo. :drinks:

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Re: 22 magnum ammo cost

Post by el toro » 22 Jul 2018, 12:17 am

Very enlightening, fellas. Thanks.

I don't reload and had never considered the idea of mild loads to reduce noise. Makes a lot of sense. I have a Marlin x7 .223 that, apart from the odd feeding issue has been a good workhorse - many foxes accounted for on the family sheep farm. Would be good to hear about your further experiments Bill and Bladeracer - to be honest most of my shots were under 120m so a load that would shoot flat to that distance as quietly as .22WMR would be spot on.
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Re: 22 magnum ammo cost

Post by bladeracer » 22 Jul 2018, 2:59 am

el toro wrote:Very enlightening, fellas. Thanks.

I don't reload and had never considered the idea of mild loads to reduce noise. Makes a lot of sense. I have a Marlin x7 .223 that, apart from the odd feeding issue has been a good workhorse - many foxes accounted for on the family sheep farm. Would be good to hear about your further experiments Bill and Bladeracer - to be honest most of my shots were under 120m so a load that would shoot flat to that distance as quietly as .22WMR would be spot on.


That's the same reason most of my .204 shots are with 2400fps loads, most of them are closer than I need to use 4400fps loads. The hot loads are only for those long shots that come up.
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Re: 22 magnum ammo cost

Post by Oldbloke » 22 Jul 2018, 12:31 pm

el toro wrote:Very enlightening, fellas. I have a Marlin x7 .223 that, apart from the odd feeding issue has been a good workhorse - many foxes accounted for on the family sheep farm. .


What's the feeding issue. I have the exact same rifle and just love it. No issues and with reloads I'm getting .7moa
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Re: 22 magnum ammo cost

Post by NUTSACK » 18 Aug 2018, 6:12 pm

I can't understand people comparing a .223 to .22 Magnum..not even similar or for similar use really. Half the point of buying a rimfire is to not have to reload or mess around, just grap a pack and go have some fun. I considered selling my barely used magnum and getting a 17WSM but again it's another kettle of fish really. Shooting rabbits and maybe fox's at 0- 100m is what i consider a magnum being good for, anything bigger or further then reassess your needs..I'd have to be shooting a lot of magnum ammo for it to bother me..it's a hobby with a cost like everything.
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Re: 22 magnum ammo cost

Post by Bills Shed » 18 Aug 2018, 7:37 pm

We are not comparing the 223 to a 22 mag just saying that you can load a 223 down to 22 mag velocities at a cheaper cost than feeding a 22 mag.
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