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Howa hcr

Post by Sergeant Hartman » 06 Jul 2018, 9:46 am

I see many ppl have howa rifles, but not finding much info on the hcr, apart from a few videos and the article in the ssaa magazine.

Anyway I was at my local gun shop and talking to them about the lithgow and hcr... and they told me that the package (hcr + scope) is cheaper than the rifle alone, considering the hcr is nearly half price to the 105 and no idea when the 105 will be available if I order now...I put a deposit on the hcr, now waiting on the PTA to be approved. Hopefully can pickup next week. Btw got it in hipster 65creedmore caliber.

Now I need to workout what I need for reloading 65creed. More so powder (2209?) And projectiles etc.
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Post by in2anity » 06 Jul 2018, 9:57 am

Ziad wrote:I see many ppl have howa rifles, but not finding much info on the hcr, apart from a few videos and the article in the ssaa magazine.

Anyway I was at my local gun shop and talking to them about the lithgow and hcr... and they told me that the package (hcr + scope) is cheaper than the rifle alone, considering the hcr is nearly half price to the 105 and no idea when the 105 will be available if I order now...I put a deposit on the hcr, now waiting on the PTA to be approved. Hopefully can pickup next week. Btw got it in hipster 65creedmore caliber.

Now I need to workout what I need for reloading 65creed. More so powder (2209?) And projectiles etc.


What length barrel?
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Post by Sergeant Hartman » 06 Jul 2018, 10:06 am

24inch
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Post by in2anity » 06 Jul 2018, 10:16 am

Ziad wrote:24inch

Me thinks AR2209 is the correct starting choice. Especially If it were a 20", AR2208 would be worth experimenting with. Depending on how deep down the rabbit warren you want to go, you could do ladder testing on both.
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Post by sungazer » 06 Jul 2018, 10:22 am

2209 is the goto powder Although I have used AR2206H just as successfully which means 2208 will work as well. 2209 gives more velocity for lower pressure and should be alright in a 24 inch barrel. if you see big fire balls out the muzzle move up to a faster powder. The projectile weights well 120-123 grn are very accurate target loads. Also being used are the 139-140 grn they don't seem to be any better than the lower weight projectiles. I am also using the 143 ELDX which shoots pretty good as also as well as being a hunting load.
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Post by Sergeant Hartman » 06 Jul 2018, 10:53 am

I should have noted, its primarily a target rifle, I have 2208 as that's what i use in my 308. Sp if I can use 2208 then that's best, otherwise I have to buy 2209
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Post by in2anity » 06 Jul 2018, 10:59 am

Ziad wrote:I should have noted, its primarily a target rifle, I have 2208 as that's what i use in my 308. Sp if I can use 2208 then that's best, otherwise I have to buy 2209


Well in that case I'd just start on 2208 then - I"m sure you'll be able to get her to sing. You planning on shooting any comp with it? If so, what type of comp? The reason I ask is the type of comp really dictates the required degree of load-tuning.
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Post by Sergeant Hartman » 06 Jul 2018, 12:20 pm

Nope, at the moment just range
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Post by in2anity » 06 Jul 2018, 12:43 pm

Ziad wrote:Nope, at the moment just range

Ok just keep it simple then IMO, find your load then focus on technique :thumbsup:
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Post by Miniaction » 06 Jul 2018, 6:27 pm

They are a great rifle. I've got one with the 26 inch threaded barrel. Furtherest I've taken it out to is 450 and it did slightly over moa using factory 143 ELD-X.

not reloading at the moment but one day.

There is a 6.5 creedmoor forum that has heaps of the reload data.
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Post by sungazer » 06 Jul 2018, 6:39 pm

I would suggest trying the Lapua Scenar 123 grn bullets. I think you will be really please with the results you are able to achieve with these 2208 no problem. Personally I think the Lapua, Sierra and Berger are better bullets than the Hornady. I know there are probably more people that use the Hornady but whether they have done comparative tests and weighed and measured a lot of them or just been told or read it off the internet I don't know.
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Post by SCJ429 » 06 Jul 2018, 8:13 pm

People find Bergers hard to get. The Sierra hunting bullet is the Game King and people probably want to use a 140 grain projectile. The old Amax was a great performer and shooters who used it and like it have turned to the ELDX. If the others are better bullets I am not sure if it is how they work on game because the Hornady's work very well. I agree that there is a lot more variation on ogive length with the Hornady but with a bit of batching you can get them shooting under half an inch in most cases. Just my take on it.
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