solarpak wrote:Folks,
quite a few makers harp on about the SUB MOA guarantee - be it 3 shots or 5 shots using premium ammunition from a cold barrel at 100 yards . What many folk dont understand is the conditions that these guarantees are shot under - usually in a testing tunnel with no external influences and with either - 1) the barelled action clamped to a test bed and the trigger electronically or mechanically pulled - or 2) the entire rifle clamped to a benchrest. At no point in time will a shooter be holding the rifle .
Yes some makers do still test shoot rifles in controlled conditions as a matter of proof testing but for accuracy testing - the human element is taken out of the test and only the trigger is the contact point that the human may exert a force upon.
C
Hey solarpak...
How the rifle is tested in the factory is largely irrelevant to one of us being able to consistantly shoot moa with that rifle. ..
And...the moa guarantee's are based real life consumer laws, & arent based on the rifle being shot in factory testing conditions for its functional life...
We let manufacturors bully us into thinking that if we shoot 1.5 moa it must be us & our inability...
Personslly, i think we underestimate our ability based on the above...its really not hard for even a novice shooter to shoot a good group with an accurate rifle & ammo combination...
Ive let inexperienced shooters shoot my rifles & pull as good groups as i can, & sometimes even better with only minimal verbal coaching & a good 5 mins of dry firing..
Im just a hunter & ive even beaten a national team long range shooter on his own rifle & ammo with him calling wind for me...
Too many of us are intimidated into keeping less than acceptable firearms & related products these days because were led to believe we're inadequate, when we should demand more of an explanation than "you need to practice more" & "you need to work on your technique" ...esoecially given the costs involved in purchasing various lots of factory ammo the other costs associated in testing.
We should be encouraged to chsllenge these guarantees when we can't produce them ourselves...afterall, thst is what consumer protection laws are there for
The man who knows everything, doesnt really know everything...he's just stopped learning...