What would it take for a safety to fail

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Re: What would it take for a safety to fail

Post by Westy » 19 Feb 2014, 6:20 pm

Dirtdart89 wrote:Yeah unfortunately the Taliban are a lot smarter than we give em credit for they build the pressure plate or trigger up in front of the main explosive so when the flail or whatever hits it, the main charge will be pretty much right under the vehicle. I'm not sure if they have tried extending the flails or rollers but they would probably figure it out after a few days.


It took them 10 years to find a little old Grey Haired man riding a donkey there smart alright!!!! As for the safety if you have one in the tube and hope that it won't fail then I'm staying in the ute your on your own !!LOL :mrgreen: :ugeek: :mrgreen:
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Re: What would it take for a safety to fail

Post by Weepy » 20 Feb 2014, 8:29 am

You have to appease your guns every time you use them by playing 'safety dance' in the car for the trip to the range :lol:

Then you're all good.
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Re: What would it take for a safety to fail

Post by loaded » 23 Feb 2014, 10:40 pm

It’s not a matter of the safety failing, it really dose. It’s a matter of the sear releasing the hammer onto the firing pin, this is the issue.

First the safety on most long-arms blocks the trigger, so if you drop a cocked gun with the safety on it will most likely fire. No fault of the safety, but the hammer/sear. The gun would have fired if the safety was off as well.

The sear holds the hammer, the hammer is under pressure from a spring, the hammer hits the firing pin or has the firing pin on it, hitting the primer. The trigger causes the sear to release the hammer. The safety on most longarms stops the trigger so you can see the issue.

As already said, its the hammer sear arrangement that gunsmiths play with to work the trigger. If they get it wrong and make the contact negative the slippage is greater, thus prone to accidental discharge. These same parts wear slowly during use giving the same result.

So with this all in mind do you use the safety?
Think of it this way would you change a tyre with the hand brake off?
No. Is the hand break on a guarantee the car won’t roll?
No. But it dose make it much safer.
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