Stalking Vs Target shooting

[bigrich]

That’s a very fine shooting rifle with great capabilities. From what you’ve posted, I think the 260 Tikka is probably utilised as a long range Varminator and target rifle. A stalking rifle needs to be lighter and more “pointable “ IMHO. I think a 30-06 might be more rifle than you need for fallow deer, light rifles in larger caliber tend to recoil a lot more as well. Cheers

[TassieTiger]

and target rifle. A stalking rifle needs to be lighter and more “pointable “ IMHO. I think a 30-06 might be more rifle than you need for fallow deer, light rifles in larger caliber tend to recoil a lot more as well. Cheers[/quote]

It’s a better rifle than I am marksman at present...
I agree that The 30-06 is too much but it’s just so much fun and I have mountains of reloads already made, dies, projectiles, etc...though the reloads probably work in next rifle...but I just enjoy that caliber.

[bigrich]

Yeah well, at the end of the day it’s whatever floats ya boat or tickles ya fancy. 30-06 is one of the greats that’s for sure. I know one thing tas, ask a opinion of ten people, you’ll get ten slightly different answers . Cheers

[TassieTiger]

Pic of 260 Remington I keep referring too...attached.

Going to try the new Mauser M18 for weight in the 30/06...someone on here has said they are guaranteeing sub moa with 5 shots - so that implies they can deal with at least some heat...as 5 shots rolled out in quick succession is generally enough to get the sporty barrels that I’ve owned - very hot...

[bigrich]

Pic of 260 Remington I keep referring too...attached.

Going to try the new Mauser M18 for weight in the 30/06...someone on here has said they are guaranteeing sub moa with 5 shots - so that implies they can deal with at least some heat...as 5 shots rolled out in quick succession is generally enough to get the sporty barrels that I’ve owned - very hot...

yup, nice rifle tas. i just hope you don't come back to it one day to find it's been swallowed by a bush python anything with "mauser" on it and made in germany should be good. wouldn't worry about five shots in a hunting rifle mate. first two or three shots is all that counts. i recently got a stainless/synthetic . some of my friends give me greif cause i swore i only ever wanted wood and blued steel rifles i got a sako a7 in 308 win. it's light, very accurate. it's like if a sako and a tikka t3 lite had a barstard child sako 85 trigger , and sako 75 action/ barrel means it's a pretty good thing

[TassieTiger]

I like the sound of sako and tikka having offspring rifles - that’s right up tassies alley as aren’t sako/tikka cousins lol

[SCJ429]

If you like the 30/06 don't ever test drive a 300WSM.

If I had a choice between the German made rifle and one from Scandinavia, I think the Finn would get the nod.

[marksman]

shot placement is everything
I have a great feeling of regard for the 30-06
even for shooting fallow

and I really have a sickening affection for mauser rifles

[Gormanchov]

I went down the route of getting a do everything rifle, Tikka T3 CTR in 308with a Burris XTR II in 3x15-50.

Reason for this is I was just starting shooting again and was dabbling with f-class as well as hunting.

Rifle and scope unloaded comes in at 4.3kg without the bipod. Very noticeable for the first couple of hunts walking up and down hillsides but you do get used to it. This combination is really accurate and points well even in closer scrub conditions.

My next challenge is convincing the wife that it’s too much weight for proper mountain hunting and I need to spend money on a lightweight setup, might have to get her to come out on the next hunt and lug it around a bit.

[Sergeant Hartman]

Just buy it and then apologize.... it's easier. Maybe add something nice for her like a new oven mitten or a baking tray



Hahahaha j/k I do not take any responsibility if she ends up using the rifle on you

[Stix]

Just buy it and then apologize.... it's easier. Maybe add something nice for her like a new oven mitten or a baking tray



Hahahaha j/k I do not take any responsibility if she ends up using the rifle on you

Yes folks...for those who've just tuned in, on enough gun today were chatting with relationship expert ZIAD on how to best keep you wife happy enough to let you buy another gun...and for those already tuned in, yes you DID hear right...DR ZIAD said just buy the gun without permission or discussion, & throw the missus a new oven mit or baking tray to keep her happy...

AHH...Fark...you crack me up... LMFAO

[TassieTiger]

In my house it goes like this...
Wife-Why do you want another gun?
Me - Because this next gun is different and fits me better...
Wife - bulls**t, you can only shoot one gun at a time...
Me - yeah, well I haven’t seen you wearing more than 1 pair of bloody shoes and when I have as many guns as you do shoes then you can comment...
Wife - here, have a $@#%€en shoe then...”thud”.
Me - I’ll take that as a “do what ever you want then”.
Wife - no! We can’t afford it.

2 weeks later.
Wife at friends bbq...Hey, did you bring the meat?
No - I didn’t shoot anything.
Why not, you’ve never not bought something...?
Well I would have, but I had the wrong gun with me, it wasn’t suitable for the shot, but this other gun I’m looking at- well, meat would be a plenty...
Ffs, but the damn gun!!!
Cheers dear will do, and you looking smashing in those target bought heels.

[bigrich]

The bachelor life for me fellas. The only things I worry about are beer, diesel, bullets , or bait.

[Sergeant Hartman]

Rotfl stix and tassie... made my morning

Now I gotta go do some work

[Daddybang]

In my house the conversation went something along the lines of...
Me- babe I need a 22-250
Wife- Get f@#ked im still waiting for my shottie!!!

[bigfellascott]

The bachelor life for me fellas. The only things I worry about are beer, diesel, bullets , or bait.

Same here mate, livin the dream, no boat anchor here holding me back from doing what I want to do.

[Stix]

The bachelor life for me fellas. The only things I worry about are beer, diesel, bullets , or bait.

Same here mate, livin the dream, no boat anchor here holding me back from doing what I want to do.

Single here too guys...

But if ever get a partner ill definately try Dr Ziad's relationship advice...!

[bigrich]

The bachelor life for me fellas. The only things I worry about are beer, diesel, bullets , or bait.

Same here mate, livin the dream, no boat anchor here holding me back from doing what I want to do.

Single here too guys...

But if ever get a partner ill definately try Dr Ziad's relationship advice...!

He could get his own show like Dr Phil !?!

[bigrich]

Anyway, back to topic. All you fellas in a relationship,tell your missus you need a light weight rifle for stalking otherwise it’s going to cost lots of money for a chiropractor at a later date. Actually, ya better use the word “hunting “ instead of “stalking “ someone might think your the wrong kind of stalker

[BRNO_Bigot]

Anyway, back to topic. All you fellas in a relationship,tell your missus you need a light weight rifle for stalking otherwise it’s going to cost lots of money for a chiropractor at a later date. Actually, ya better use the word “hunting “ instead of “stalking “ someone might think your the wrong kind of stalker

My girlfriend says I'm a stalker - well TECHNICALLY she's not my girlfriend, YET.

[solarpak]

My advice - buy the better half a decent camera and take her hunting with you!! My wife loves hunting with me and even helps with the carry out ......

Anyway stalking vs target....all about weight if your looking into stalking.... but i do a lot of deer hunting where i sit in a ground blind - and thus a target gun (semi-heavy sporter or varmint) works very nicely..... but i wouldn't even look at using these rifles if shooting on foot and doing lots of walking or climbing.....

Thats it really - aint rocket science.... there are folks who carry heavy outfits as stalking rifles - and thats ok - but at the end of the day, its their back and wallet when they go to the physio or chiro!!!

Cheers
CK

[Sergeant Hartman]

The bachelor life for me fellas. The only things I worry about are beer, diesel, bullets , or bait.

Same here mate, livin the dream, no boat anchor here holding me back from doing what I want to do.

Single here too guys...

But if ever get a partner ill definately try Dr Ziad's relationship advice...!

He could get his own show like Dr Phil !?!

Good on ya stix, trust me you shall

Channel 10 already offered me a spot, but I am waiting the call from Oprah

[TassieTiger]

My advice - buy the better half a decent camera and take her hunting with you!! My wife loves hunting with me and even helps with the carry out ......

Anyway stalking vs target....all about weight if your looking into stalking.... but i do a lot of deer hunting where i sit in a ground blind - and thus a target gun (semi-heavy sporter or varmint) works very nicely..... but i wouldn't even look at using these rifles if shooting on foot and doing lots of walking or climbing.....

Thats it really - aint rocket science.... there are folks who carry heavy outfits as stalking rifles - and thats ok - but at the end of the day, its their back and wallet when they go to the physio or chiro!!!

Cheers
CK

Thanks for the reply.
But the question somewhat remains...I’ll put it another way.
Is there a light weight sporter / hunting rifle (or is there one that stands out as better than others) - that is a typical “carry” rifle - as in 2.5-3kg - but will not over heat after shooting two groups of 3 in side 5 minutes?

From my limited experience you can’t have both...

[bigrich]

well tas, at the moment i think my a7 sako in 308 is pretty good. it's quite light. a mate of mine has a steyr pro hunter in 308 also , it's light and i reckon it's capable of doing what you want. even with factory ammo it makes one hole. the safety might take some getting used to , but once you know it , it's very good. i think the biggest problem for the australian shooter these days is there is so much choice.

[Sergeant Hartman]

Get a towel wrap it around the barrel pour water on the towel, to cool the barrel quicker.

I am no expert in shooting/hunting but logic says a metal barrel will heat up quicker the thinner it is. Probably if toy can find a carbon fiber barrel that might fit as it cools quicker.

[TassieTiger]

well tas, at the moment i think my a7 sako in 308 is pretty good. it's quite light. a mate of mine has a steyr pro hunter in 308 also , it's light and i reckon it's capable of doing what you want. even with factory ammo it makes one hole. the safety might take some getting used to , but once you know it , it's very good. i think the biggest problem for the australian shooter these days is there is so much choice.

I think your right. I have a steyr and it seems to have a light weight, but varmint thickness barrel that’s twist fluted. It’s still heavier than normal by 1kg but it will shoot 12- 15 shots before needing a rest...a friends sako does the same but is lighter and more expensive.

I understand there are other artificial ways to cool barrel with towels etc but I’m not a metallurgist but I’ve seen metal do very weird things with tempering and similar - it concerns me when accuracy can be compromised by a .01 inch hotspot.

I think big rich is on the money for me, a slightly heavier barrel than the lightest sporter barrels is the answer...and a steyr fits that bill.

[PoorShot300]

Tassie, don't know your budget, but if buying a used rifle, have you considered getting a carbon fibre barrel as used on the Christenson Arms rifles? I haven't looked at the cost, but thought it was an unmentioned option and I'd throw it into the mix.

fft...

[TassieTiger]

Yes, I’ve had a look at the carbon wrapping but two things concern me in this space. 1 - budget for even a sh rifle with carbon is beyond my 1500 all up budget.
2 - having lived and breathed motorcycles for 30 years, I cannot understand what amendments the manufacturer has made to the CF process to ensure that brittleness does not become an issue.
10 years ago, the rage was carbon fibre pipes but the heat absolutely stuffed the carbon fibre after only a couple of years - it became warped, brittle, cracked, fell apart....initial enquires around the failures found the baked in resin to be wanting, so given the heat transfer on barrels - im a little...aloof of CF wrapped barrels.

I’m still waiting for some ppl to return calls, emails RE offers I’ve made on their for sale ads on used guns and ozguns - although 2 ppl came back today and said sorry - sold awhile ago. Not helpful.

[Daddybang]

but will not over heat after shooting two groups of 3 in side 5 minutes?

From my limited experience you can’t have both...

Overheating after six shots in five minutes???
I'll put twenty thru the .243 in fifteen mins without a problem.

[TassieTiger]

So got absolutely sick of being stuffed around by private sellers - went into lgs and plumped for a new steyr mannlicher, 30-06 with pic rail.
I love the set trigger(like 1pound in forward and 2.5 in normal), spiral flute and solid construction feel.