Diamond Jim wrote:It depends who you ask. Some will say "just go and shoot it" others have a specific run-in procedure. I'd look at high end barrel manufacturers for guidance but, for what it is worth, I've followed a run-in routine with all my new rifles.
Shoot, clean after each round for 5 rounds.
Shoot 5 rounds, clean for a total of 25 rounds.
After that, clean after every outing whether you shoot 1 or lots more.
That's just me as guided by what others suggest. I have no evidence it does anything to make a barrel better but I have no evidence it hurts either. Many say it is no use at all and some say it is harmful to a barrel.
If you research this topic it has been covered many times. You just need to pick a side and go with it. I don't think there is any right or wrong. I just err on the side of caution.
JIm
Roo farmer wrote:Here's an idea that doesn't get mentioned much when this topic is discussed - clean the barrel BEFORE the first shot. Gets rid of any oil or factory grime or filings before the first shot is fired.
Stix wrote:
Gets rid of metal filings before first shot is fired.. .?
Mate the factory fires the rifle to proof test it before you get it...
Then its (maybe cleaned) packed with grease for rust prevention.
Roo farmer wrote:Stix wrote:
Gets rid of metal filings before first shot is fired.. .?
Mate the factory fires the rifle to proof test it before you get it...
Then its (maybe cleaned) packed with grease for rust prevention.
Okay, I didn't know that rifles were fired at the factory, and I have certainly never had a target supplied with a new rifle.
All do know, is if you run a brush with some solvent and then run some patches through a brand new Howa, they don't come out white.
Roo farmer wrote:Stix wrote:
Gets rid of metal filings before first shot is fired.. .?
Mate the factory fires the rifle to proof test it before you get it...
Then its (maybe cleaned) packed with grease for rust prevention.
Okay, I didn't know that rifles were fired at the factory, and I have certainly never had a target supplied with a new rifle.
All do know, is if you run a brush with some solvent and then run some patches through a brand new Howa, they don't come out white.
bigfellascott wrote:Salt and Pepper is a great seasoning for anything, give it a go
Stix wrote:bigfellascott wrote:Salt and Pepper is a great seasoning for anything, give it a go
Is that how you get rid of your empty beer cans bigfella...?
Diamond Jim wrote:It depends who you ask. Some will say "just go and shoot it" others have a specific run-in procedure. I'd look at high end barrel manufacturers for guidance but, for what it is worth, I've followed a run-in routine with all my new rifles.
Shoot, clean after each round for 5 rounds.
Shoot 5 rounds, clean for a total of 25 rounds.
After that, clean after every outing whether you shoot 1 or lots more.
That's just me as guided by what others suggest. I have no evidence it does anything to make a barrel better but I have no evidence it hurts either. Many say it is no use at all and some say it is harmful to a barrel.
If you research this topic it has been covered many times. You just need to pick a side and go with it. I don't think there is any right or wrong. I just err on the side of caution.
JIm
Stix wrote:
Sorry if i came accross abrupt--didnt mean to...
As straightshooter says, common sense dictates cleaning a new barrel.
They are coated in something for rust prevention hence why a patch in a new barrel will be dirty.
I just assumed all rifles are fired in a factory to ensure they are safe.
But id be worried if you get metal filings out of a new rifle before you fire it...
If i had that id take it back before i fired it.
straightshooter wrote:If somebody, anywhere in the googleverse, were to offer an explanation based on factual metrologically traceable observation as to the efficacy of 'barrel break in' rather than speculative gobbledygook then I will be the first to admit I am wrong.
It seems to me to be just a myth that gets reinforced by it's retelling and if anything it just accelerates wear in barrels.
Now look at the 'big picture' as the former grim reaper national treasurer was fond of saying. More wear in barrels leads to more barrel sales, more wear in rifles leads to more rifle sales.
What would you say to a tyre maker advising you to follow a procedure of numerous sequential burn outs to break in your tyres?
bigrich wrote:Diamond Jim wrote:It depends who you ask. Some will say "just go and shoot it" others have a specific run-in procedure. I'd look at high end barrel manufacturers for guidance but, for what it is worth, I've followed a run-in routine with all my new rifles.
Shoot, clean after each round for 5 rounds.
Shoot 5 rounds, clean for a total of 25 rounds.
After that, clean after every outing whether you shoot 1 or lots more.
That's just me as guided by what others suggest. I have no evidence it does anything to make a barrel better but I have no evidence it hurts either. Many say it is no use at all and some say it is harmful to a barrel.
If you research this topic it has been covered many times. You just need to pick a side and go with it. I don't think there is any right or wrong. I just err on the side of caution.
JIm
I’ve had new barrels fitted by Allan swan and from memory this was the run in procedure he advised. Rifles are manufactured metal products. A car is more complicated, but would you get a new car, cane the crap out of it, overheating bearings and seals, and still expect it to last a long time ? I’d rather take the time to run in a rifle I’ve paid good money for to make sure I get a lot of good accurate use. Cheers
bigfellascott wrote:bigrich wrote:Diamond Jim wrote:It depends who you ask. Some will say "just go and shoot it" others have a specific run-in procedure. I'd look at high end barrel manufacturers for guidance but, for what it is worth, I've followed a run-in routine with all my new rifles.
Shoot, clean after each round for 5 rounds.
Shoot 5 rounds, clean for a total of 25 rounds.
After that, clean after every outing whether you shoot 1 or lots more.
That's just me as guided by what others suggest. I have no evidence it does anything to make a barrel better but I have no evidence it hurts either. Many say it is no use at all and some say it is harmful to a barrel.
If you research this topic it has been covered many times. You just need to pick a side and go with it. I don't think there is any right or wrong. I just err on the side of caution.
JIm
I’ve had new barrels fitted by Allan swan and from memory this was the run in procedure he advised. Rifles are manufactured metal products. A car is more complicated, but would you get a new car, cane the crap out of it, overheating bearings and seals, and still expect it to last a long time ? I’d rather take the time to run in a rifle I’ve paid good money for to make sure I get a lot of good accurate use. Cheers
I don’t reckon they baby drag car engines much
TassieTiger wrote:So, despite advice to the contrary...
I swabbed the barrel pre shooting and it was pretty black. 5 tissues later, cleanish.
I then fired 6 shots and swabbed the main funk out with a couple tissues and a nylon.
I fired another 10 shots and then used a little copper solvent and thoroughly cleaned again with nylon and tissue.
I then fired 3 more to get into paper and 2 follow up to close group.
Cleaned once more - pretty vaguely this time and I’m feeling next session will be on a bench to dial in and that will be her...loving the gun so far but fug me those set triggers are insanely light. Did not even register on the trigger pull gauge...