which lever gun and pistol caliber

[in2anity]

I don't think it's cut rifling then, mine is a C model I think.

Yes I could be wrong I’m not 100%, but I could also be right. this is the model I’m talking about https://shootersdelight.com.au/product/ ... ion-rifle/ read about the barrel

[bigrich]

you fellas are a terrible influence . i'm starting to get all hot and bothered for a rossi 44. i have heard of feed issues with pistol cartridges in some lever guns . mainly due to the wrong shape of projectile. anyone got any experience in this

I have tried a lot of different bullet weights and shapes in the .38 and the .44 with zero feed issues, not full wadcutters though as yet.
The Marlin will occasionally drop a round off the lifter into the action but it clears easily.

The Uberti old-school design requires disassembling the action if it fails to extract a case or round from the chamber, and you don't notice before cycling it. The action requires the bolt to go through the lifter into battery before the lifter can drop. If you cycle a round while there is a case in the chamber you end up with a live round in the lifter so you can't close the bolt. You need to remove the toggles and lifter arm to be able to pull the bolt rearward allowing the lifter to drop out.

doesn't sound like a uberti is for me blade, they sound like a PITA to work on. that's one advantage the marlins have. very easy to work on

[bigrich]

There are 357 1894cs floating around that remlin did a short run of recently - they have ballard (I think). There’s one at Magnum for around $1300 new. Marlins and Winnie’s are really worth the extra dollars if you can scrape it together - id strongly recommend them over the replicas. For plinking the 357 is better (and cheaper obviously).

i hear ya, i would really like a miroku, it's , well, the money. descisions

[in2anity]

On the 1894 wiki article it states “In the mid-1990s, Marlin changed the .357 and .44 barrels from 12-groove-or-more "Micro-Groove" rifling to 6-groove "Ballard"-style rifling”” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlin_Model_1894

[bigrich]

i've heard the rifling isn't any deeper in the ballard than the micro groove but. any truth in this, or is the ballard cut deeper how are these marlins for accuracy ?

[Blr243]

I used a 357 Rossi on pigs for a while. No scope. It was so thin and light it was like carrying nothing Never found it lacking close range

[in2anity]

i've heard the rifling isn't any deeper in the ballard than the micro groove but. any truth in this, or is the ballard cut deeper how are these marlins for accuracy ?

Yes the Ballard is deeper - microgroove is shallower (but more of it), helps extend the life of the tooling at the factory. When it comes to stabilizing lead bullets, the Ballards print much cleaner holes on paper and in my experiences (with both styles) my Ballards are easily more accurate than my microgroove (shooting lead that is)

[bigrich]

I used a 357 Rossi on pigs for a while. No scope. It was so thin and light it was like carrying nothing Never found it lacking close range

how reliable and accurate was yours ? was it a old one, or a bit newer made

[in2anity]

Ballard:

Ballard

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Microgroove:

Microgroove

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See how the print is different - and the second one is 30/30 so by definition it should be more accurate

[bladeracer]

I don't think it's cut rifling then, mine is a C model I think.

Yes I could be wrong I’m not 100%, but I could also be right. this is the model I’m talking about https://shootersdelight.com.au/product/ ... ion-rifle/ read about the barrel

Well, it does say Ballard, great price if it is.

[bladeracer]

doesn't sound like a uberti is for me blade, they sound like a PITA to work on. that's one advantage the marlins have. very easy to work on

Uberti's are replicas of the early designs, I think several early designs have this problem.

[bigrich]

Ballard:

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Microgroove:

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See how the print is different - and the second one is 30/30 so by definition it should be more accurate

yup, that's pretty good shootin' tex......

[in2anity]

Well, it does say Ballard, great price if it is.

Isn’t it - if I didn’t have a heap of other project rifles on the go I’d get one. Only problem I see is that short sight radius - not a problem if you whack some optics on it however...

[bigrich]

I don't think it's cut rifling then, mine is a C model I think.

Yes I could be wrong I’m not 100%, but I could also be right. this is the model I’m talking about https://shootersdelight.com.au/product/ ... ion-rifle/ read about the barrel

Well, it does say Ballard, great price if it is.

shooters delight is a stones throw from where i work fellas . the marlins a better thing than the rossi ?

[bladeracer]

Well, it does say Ballard, great price if it is.

Isn’t it - if I didn’t have a heap of other project rifles on the go I’d get one. Only problem I see is that short sight radius - not a problem if you whack some optics on it however...

Or a rear peep.

[in2anity]

yup, that's pretty good shootin' tex......

Lol well that’s more the scope and benchrest than me BR - but that’s a big advantage of marlins - trivial to scope.

[in2anity]

Or a rear peep.

Still short IMO, particularly on the shorter action. For offhand, a 24” Winnie with a tang on the other hand - now we’re taking!

[in2anity]

shooters delight is a stones throw from where i work fellas . the marlins a better thing than the rossi ?

Yes IMO without question. But just verify the rifling before you buy (if you want to shoot lead that is).

[in2anity]

I just upgraded my 30/30 to Ballard actually, my days of microgroove are officially over:

Marlin XLR 30/30, Marlin 1894CB 32H&R

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[brett1868]

Being a small man with small man syndrome I'd forego the minor calibers and buy the Big Horny Armoury 460Mag lever gun. Pair this with the S&W 460XVR revolver and nothing survives for at least 200yds. You can soft c$@k it with 454 Cassull or 45 Colt for cheap plinking or if I was in Mexico it'd be the 500 versions of the lever & pistol but apparently in NSW I can't be trusted with such a powerful pistol....

[Diamond Jim]

I've owned a Rossi 92 Saddle Ring Carbine in .357M for over 30 years and it has functioned flawlessly and is great fun. Quite accurate for the type of rifle it is. I'd be happy to use it for pigs in close country and has done good service on feral goats with factory ammo. Reloads in .38 or .357 are very cheap for plinking and if you happen to shoot Cowboy action or IPSC then you can use the same gun. A .44M handgun won't be approved for IPSC - I don't shoot Cowboy so can't comment there..

[bigrich]

Being a small man with small man syndrome I'd forego the minor calibers and buy the Big Horny Armoury 460Mag lever gun. Pair this with the S&W 460XVR revolver and nothing survives for at least 200yds. You can soft c$@k it with 454 Cassull or 45 Colt for cheap plinking or if I was in Mexico it'd be the 500 versions of the lever & pistol but apparently in NSW I can't be trusted with such a powerful pistol....

Your profile photo might look like “krusty the clown “ , but you’re firearms tastes are more like “Yosemite Sam” would be nice for me to own some canons. I read about those big horn armoury lever guns recently. It would be fun alright

[bigrich]

Thanks for all your posts and opinions guys. Keep them coming

[Wm.Traynor]

My Rossi was a piece of junk. So is my Mossberg. May doG have mercy on your eternal soul for thinking about lever guns
Good Luck mate

maybe i should perform a exorcism on a lever before i buy it what were the faults with your rossi and when was it made

It's years since I owned that cursed thing, a Rio Grande and the YOM is unknown to me. Would not feed or fire but was accurate when it did. Something people do not take into account is the trips To and From the smith$$$$$
Exorcism Only thing I didn't try

[Wm.Traynor]

There are 357 1894cs floating around that remlin did a short run of recently - they have ballard (I think). There’s one at Magnum for around $1300 new. Marlins and Winnie’s are really worth the extra dollars if you can scrape it together - id strongly recommend them over the replicas. For plinking the 357 is better (and cheaper obviously).

i hear ya, i would really like a miroku, it's , well, the money. descisions

The money is what influenced me into lesser brands and I am the poorer for my penny pinching

[Wm.Traynor]

BTW
I "think" I recall something on www.marlinowners.com/forum about the latest Rossis, which was negative. Memory is not so good and I didn't pay much attention but I don't want you to get stuck with a lemon.

[bigrich]

My Rossi was a piece of junk. So is my Mossberg. May doG have mercy on your eternal soul for thinking about lever guns
Good Luck mate

maybe i should perform a exorcism on a lever before i buy it what were the faults with your rossi and when was it made

It's years since I owned that cursed thing, a Rio Grande and the YOM is unknown to me. Would not feed or fire but was accurate when it did. Something people do not take into account is the trips To and From the smith$$$$$
Exorcism Only thing I didn't try

That confirms what I’ve heard about Rossi. They can be exceptionally accurate, but some have feed problems. Bit of a lucky dip. If ya get a good one, they can be really good. Supposedly the last couple of years they’ve really lifted their game. Anyone bought a new one recently ?

[wooosaah]

I got mine for cowboy shooting and got it in 45 Colt over shooting 38's in a 357 because I wanted the bigger caliber. I'm getting my pistols in 45 Colt too. I got the Uberti 1873 competition Model and I like it a lot so far. Used it in 1 comp and got my best time and least misses. The front side is really helpful for finding target. Uberti is great because its a really nice looking gun with the colour case hardening and octagon barrel and a fair bit cheaper than the Winchester's with CCH. Certainly more expensive than the Rossi though.

[bigpete]

Hmmm,the only problems I've had from a lever action came from a 1895cb....

[bigrich]

Hmmm,the only problems I've had from a lever action came from a 1895cb....

i think all the manufacturer's have had some bad runs at times . my local GS has a '92 rossi ,stainless, hex barrel. think it's a cowboy model. nice trigger. they also got a blued rossi 44 mag which one