TassieTiger wrote:Yes, I would buy another steyr - but only because of my other 223 steyr that has proven to me that they can make a fine shooting rifle.
If this 06 had have been my first steyr, yes, my confidence would have been slain - I agree. That being said - my complaints with the steyr, match very closely what another member is encountering with his light weight tikka 308...yet - he has chosen to accept that rifles accuracy and not advertise its shortcomings...another colleague of mine is currently trying to get a 270 tikka shooting better than 3 Moa and struggling worse than I ever was...so, should a person consider an alternate brand to both tikka and steyr as a result...
As a returning shooter after many many years away, before knowing anyone within the sport or what was going on in shooting forums or even attending a lgs - the first rifle brand that caught my attention was tikka...full page magazine spreads, huge MOA guarantee posters at gun shops, decals everywhere - got me asking the question about the brand - and yes, I quickly learned that they are held in high regard...it was predominantly reason that I bought one. Chicken or egg?
Would be an interesting poll for the forum...each member is given $2k to go shopping for a new deer rifle package. Vote for 1 of 10 packages ranging from westherby, howa, tikka, Mauser, axis, steyr, Remington, Winchester etc plus scope...would tikka be a clear winner with a $500 scope or would the Mauser m18 be a winner with a $900 scope or would the savage be a winner with a $1400 scope and 2 slabs of cascade draught?....someone smarter than me should set it up ?
bigrich wrote:geez goose, sambar ? yeh, well, i should think 30-06 as a starting point. 30 cal, known for it's load flexability and shoots the heavier projectiles better than a 308. load her up with a 180- 200 grain nosler partition and you would be good to go i reckon. load down to a lighter quicker expanding slug for the smaller deer in tassie. maybe some others on here have a different view on it, but the 30-06 would be a great choice
bigfellascott wrote:Yeah I reckon in the old days "what you paid for you got was probably right" but this day and age things have caught up well and truly in regards to a lot of things. I've spend $1500 + on a Tikka and $1800 on a 2nd hand Sako and I can honestly say it won't ever happen again, I've gotten better results accuracy wise out of my cheap arse Howas FFS! yes they aren't as well finished but FMD seriously who cares if they aren't as flash, the bloody things shoot real well for me compared to they more expensive and fancied and over hyped ones I've purchased these things are a breeze to get to shoot well and for the $$ they have shot amazingly "Out of the Box" and still do - sadly my experience of "What you pay for you get" hasn't come close to what it should have been, far from it infact and quite the opposite (make of that what you will but there seems to be a few others who have had similar experiences regarding what they spend in relation to the results they have achieved so far, not only in relations to rifles but scopes and all manner of firearms related things.
The "Hype and salesmanship doesn't always add up to a great out come despite what does are outlayed. And that is a fact backed up by a friend who also works in a well known gunshop wo has worked there many years - make of that what you will!
bigrich wrote:interesting idea on the $2k deer rifle package , how would you assess it though ?
Goose#24 wrote:Yeah that's what I was thinking, think I may just have to get a second job and just buy one of everything suggested to settle it easily! Think that may be a problem solver.
TassieTiger wrote:The parameters for the polling would be a realistic budget for rifle and scope - the budget would have to be capped at an amount that precludes someone from say buying a high end rifle and $100 scope...so maybe $1500 is a better number to preclude sako, etc.
You’d have to offer up a decent amount of “rifle/scope packages” for ppl to choose from and calibre would be irrelevant.
If you could get 20-30 voters then you’d start to see a trend of favoured rifle combinations for a given discipline.
Your not going to please everyone and some ppl will want various weird scopes / set ups but if you match mainstream rifles to mainstream scopes you capture the majority of peeps opinions.
I don’t think it would be as clear cut as ppl might think eg ppl would have to choose only their fav combo out of...howa with a Leopold 6-18 vs a tikka with a Bushnell 3/9 vs a steyr with a red field 4/18 vs a savage with a vortex 4/12 and so on...total value new has to be 1500 or under.
On other forums you could set up a poll but I’m on a phone whilst pc gets sorted so not sure if it’s an option here at present.
bigrich wrote:sorry to hear you haven't had a good run with some stuff scott
bigfellascott wrote:Yeah sometimes I wonder about that statement, I've got a $1400 Ruger Hawkeye and honestly the Howa's s**t all over it for smoothness and most importantly accuracy, and I got 2 Howas for the price of the Ruger! Sometimes I think marketing is what makes some things seem like they are somehow worth more than they perhaps should be, not always but sometimes.
straightshooter wrote:Marketing is what makes some things seem like they are somehow worth more than they perhaps should be, not always but generally so.
bigrich wrote:but BFS, all the hot chicks in the tv adds tell me toyota's and ford rangers are great
JimTom wrote:Yeah they are a little weighty mate. I had a BRNO mod 2 which foolishly parted with some time ago and have since replaced with the Lithgow. Wish I had kept the BRNO to be honest mate. Still the Lithgow is just fine.
Goose#24 wrote:Cheers all appreciate the help! I was having a squizz on used guns and saw a Weatherby Vanguard 270 with a Bushnell banner 3-9x40 on it for $500 thought that may be worth a look?
Goose#24 wrote:Cheers all appreciate the help! I was having a squizz on used guns and saw a Weatherby Vanguard 270 with a Bushnell banner 3-9x40 on it for $500 thought that may be worth a look?
bigrich wrote:Goose#24 wrote:Cheers all appreciate the help! I was having a squizz on used guns and saw a Weatherby Vanguard 270 with a Bushnell banner 3-9x40 on it for $500 thought that may be worth a look?
good rifle by all accounts. might be a bit light on projectile weight for sambar ?