bigrich wrote:I don’t know how large the deer in tassie are, but a good second hand Swede 6.5 Mauser isn’t expensive ,can be very accurate and will do the job
bigfellascott wrote:bigrich wrote:I don’t know how large the deer in tassie are, but a good second hand Swede 6.5 Mauser isn’t expensive ,can be very accurate and will do the job
Their fallow so easy to tip over.
bigrich wrote:bigfellascott wrote:bigrich wrote:I don’t know how large the deer in tassie are, but a good second hand Swede 6.5 Mauser isn’t expensive ,can be very accurate and will do the job
Their fallow so easy to tip over.
maybe for the poster a second hand swede 6.5 would be good, or a second hand 243 of some description . either way with a decent scope both could be had for under a grand . not trying to be a smart @ss to the OP, but .30 seems a bit heavy for deer that size . JMHO
straightshooter wrote:Although I have never owned a Howa I do like the the design in it being a blend of Sako and Remington attributes and the fit and finish is quite good particulary for the price.
Just recently a friend sent his 5 or 6 year old varmint model for rebarreling. Removing the factory barrel exposed a crack in the receiver extending from the first scope mounting hole to the forward edge of the receiver for the full thickness of the threads. Unfortunately I never bothered to take a picture.
The sad part is that the importer disowned the problem completely.
To my way of thinking if it happened to one then many others may be similarly affected.
straightshooter wrote:Although I have never owned a Howa I do like the the design in it being a blend of Sako and Remington attributes and the fit and finish is quite good particulary for the price.
Just recently a friend sent his 5 or 6 year old varmint model for rebarreling. Removing the factory barrel exposed a crack in the receiver extending from the first scope mounting hole to the forward edge of the receiver for the full thickness of the threads. Unfortunately I never bothered to take a picture.
The sad part is that the importer disowned the problem completely.
To my way of thinking if it happened to one then many others may be similarly affected.
bigrich wrote:straightshooter wrote:Although I have never owned a Howa I do like the the design in it being a blend of Sako and Remington attributes and the fit and finish is quite good particulary for the price.
Just recently a friend sent his 5 or 6 year old varmint model for rebarreling. Removing the factory barrel exposed a crack in the receiver extending from the first scope mounting hole to the forward edge of the receiver for the full thickness of the threads. Unfortunately I never bothered to take a picture.
The sad part is that the importer disowned the problem completely.
To my way of thinking if it happened to one then many others may be similarly affected.
unfortunately, a lot of guns are built to a budget not qaulity these days . ya get what ya pay for. pretty rude of the importer not backing what he's selling but
bigfellascott wrote:Was it evident before the barrel was removed or after it? Those barrels are put on super tight apparently.
bigrich wrote:
unfortunately, a lot of guns are built to a budget not qaulity these days . ya get what ya pay for. pretty rude of the importer not backing what he's selling but
straightshooter wrote:bigfellascott wrote:Was it evident before the barrel was removed or after it? Those barrels are put on super tight apparently.
I don't know what sort of fixture the gunsmith used to hold the action.
A common method, which I am not impressed with, is a flat bar inserted in the lug raceways which will exert a degree of twist to the action and could have possibly contributed to the formation or exacerbation of a crack.
I don't think any gunsmith would have searched for a crack prior to removing the barrel especially if it was concealed by a scope rail.
I also noticed that the factory barrel had what looked like washer pressed on it's end where it tightens up to the receiver face. If that washer is hardened and the barrel is extremely tight that may also have contributed to the crack.
straightshooter wrote:bigrich wrote:
unfortunately, a lot of guns are built to a budget not qaulity these days . ya get what ya pay for. pretty rude of the importer not backing what he's selling but
I've got some news for you.
All guns are built to a budget!
It's just that some budgets are bigger than other budgets.
bigrich wrote:straightshooter wrote:bigrich wrote:
unfortunately, a lot of guns are built to a budget not qaulity these days . ya get what ya pay for. pretty rude of the importer not backing what he's selling but
I've got some news for you.
All guns are built to a budget!
It's just that some budgets are bigger than other budgets.
which brings us back to the other part of that statement "ya get what ya pay for " JMHO out of the posters choices, i still put howa as my choice in a earlier post anyway
bigfellascott wrote:Yeah sometimes I wonder about that statement, I've got a $1400 Ruger Hawkeye and honestly the Howa's s**t all over it for smoothness and most importantly accuracy, and I got 2 Howas for the price of the Ruger! Sometimes I think marketing is what makes some things seem like they are somehow worth more than they perhaps should be, not always but sometimes.
JimTom wrote:Yep you do get what you pay for. I have never owned a Howa however it would be hard to ignore all the positivity they receive on this forum. Sounds like a great bit of kit considering its price tag.
Nevertheless, I have owned a fair few different brands of rifle, Winchester, Savage, Brno, CZ, Lithgow, Tikka, Miroku, and Sako. The Sako is the most expensive and is the best rifle I own in the way of accuracy, trigger, and action, all spot on straight from the box. Exactly what you would expect given the price you pay. In my eyes though totally worth the extra dollars.
bigrich wrote:JimTom wrote:Yep you do get what you pay for. I have never owned a Howa however it would be hard to ignore all the positivity they receive on this forum. Sounds like a great bit of kit considering its price tag.
Nevertheless, I have owned a fair few different brands of rifle, Winchester, Savage, Brno, CZ, Lithgow, Tikka, Miroku, and Sako. The Sako is the most expensive and is the best rifle I own in the way of accuracy, trigger, and action, all spot on straight from the box. Exactly what you would expect given the price you pay. In my eyes though totally worth the extra dollars.
yeh well, this is my thoughts on things. there are some great budget rifles on the market , and yes, in these modern times due to labour costs, some cheaper rifles outperform more expensive ones . whatever fits and what your comfortable with is the bottom line i guess. firearm makers are like car makers, they've all had some good products, and some not so good. i'm of the opinion i'd rather have less guns , but of the best qaulity that i can afford. i mostly buy second hand, and try to sort through what's what with all the different makes and models and judge each individual rifle on it's own merits and condition. it's the only way i could afford the A7 308 sako i own now, and IMHO it's a far better rifle than the 308 ruger i traded, for my uses and tastes . judging by the responses this topic is as controversial as the old "what's better, ford or holden ?" these days i have a toyota deisel 4x4 back to the original topic, the howa would be my pick out of the rifles listed as choices