Flyer wrote:A number of guys at our club shoot L461 actions in 222 and they are some of the most accurate guns on the line. There are after-market triggers available for them.
bigfellascott wrote:Flyer wrote:A number of guys at our club shoot L461 actions in 222 and they are some of the most accurate guns on the line. There are after-market triggers available for them.
Original factory barrels or aftermarket? Yeah I know there are aftermarket triggers for them but not easy to source from my research and expensive if memory serves me correctly, I really liked the action and the stock was beautiful to handle but I just wasn't interested in stuffing around with it in the end as I had a 222 Howa that shot rings around it (not as nice to handle being a varmint barrelled action but rather a shooter than a tomato stake that looks and feels great TBH.
Flyer wrote:bigfellascott wrote:Flyer wrote:A number of guys at our club shoot L461 actions in 222 and they are some of the most accurate guns on the line. There are after-market triggers available for them.
Original factory barrels or aftermarket? Yeah I know there are aftermarket triggers for them but not easy to source from my research and expensive if memory serves me correctly, I really liked the action and the stock was beautiful to handle but I just wasn't interested in stuffing around with it in the end as I had a 222 Howa that shot rings around it (not as nice to handle being a varmint barrelled action but rather a shooter than a tomato stake that looks and feels great TBH.
Aftermarket barrels. I'd imagine most of the original barrels are long in the tooth by now, but I've got a mate with an original 222 sporter barrel and his shoots as well as any of the factory rifles. The L461 and A1 actions are popular for competition, so Timney, Madco, Canjar and (I think) Barnard all make triggers for them.
There's still a bit to be said for the Howa mini being based on the L461, though from memory it's a little bit heavier and the ones I've tried weren't as smooth as the Sako - though the difference was probably more to do with new action vs well worn-in action.
Flyer wrote:bigfellascott wrote:Flyer wrote:A number of guys at our club shoot L461 actions in 222 and they are some of the most accurate guns on the line. There are after-market triggers available for them.
Original factory barrels or aftermarket? Yeah I know there are aftermarket triggers for them but not easy to source from my research and expensive if memory serves me correctly, I really liked the action and the stock was beautiful to handle but I just wasn't interested in stuffing around with it in the end as I had a 222 Howa that shot rings around it (not as nice to handle being a varmint barrelled action but rather a shooter than a tomato stake that looks and feels great TBH.
Aftermarket barrels. I'd imagine most of the original barrels are long in the tooth by now, but I've got a mate with an original 222 sporter barrel and his shoots as well as any of the factory rifles. The L461 and A1 actions are popular for competition, so Timney, Madco, Canjar and (I think) Barnard all make triggers for them.
There's still a bit to be said for the Howa mini being based on the L461, though from memory it's a little bit heavier and the ones I've tried weren't as smooth as the Sako - though the difference was probably more to do with new action vs well worn-in action.
Bill wrote:Flyer wrote:bigfellascott wrote:Flyer wrote:A number of guys at our club shoot L461 actions in 222 and they are some of the most accurate guns on the line. There are after-market triggers available for them.
Original factory barrels or aftermarket? Yeah I know there are aftermarket triggers for them but not easy to source from my research and expensive if memory serves me correctly, I really liked the action and the stock was beautiful to handle but I just wasn't interested in stuffing around with it in the end as I had a 222 Howa that shot rings around it (not as nice to handle being a varmint barrelled action but rather a shooter than a tomato stake that looks and feels great TBH.
Aftermarket barrels. I'd imagine most of the original barrels are long in the tooth by now, but I've got a mate with an original 222 sporter barrel and his shoots as well as any of the factory rifles. The L461 and A1 actions are popular for competition, so Timney, Madco, Canjar and (I think) Barnard all make triggers for them.
There's still a bit to be said for the Howa mini being based on the L461, though from memory it's a little bit heavier and the ones I've tried weren't as smooth as the Sako - though the difference was probably more to do with new action vs well worn-in action.
Dimensions between the L461 and Howa mini are very close, as to the weight I think the mini may be a smidge lighter due to the plastic mag and bottom metal. And yes the Howa needs a few hundred rounds thru it before smoothing up very nicely. Id rate the trigger superior to the Sako after you lighten it with a 2lb spring from the trigger guy on ebay ($22).
TassieTiger wrote:It appears to be PUERILE that this thread has gone past 22 pages lol
Islander7 wrote:Hi Bill, I'm glad you had a good laugh. it is believed that laugter prolongs life, so I'm truly glad that there was at least some useful outcome for you from my post Seriously though, I just shared my first impressions after getting my first scope, even if they don't make any sense to you, that's fine, it's the internet, I'm entitled to my impressions and you are entitled to your reaction to it
I disagree however about your comment regarding comparison of fixed-zoom binoculars and variable zoom scope. Both are optics that's made out of glass for very similar purpose. I used to live in a professional photography world for some time and have seen plenty of cases when premium quality zoom lense outperformed optically a budget fixed lense (even good quality one). But I'm not here to argue
By the way, Gaz, no offence taken, it's literally impossible to offend me, be it with the stranger on the internet, or with a mate at the camp fire. I recognise that all people are different and I have zero expectations of others, especially so on the internet. From every conversations in my life I'm absorbing what I find useful to myself and ignoring the rest.
Islander7 wrote:
By the way, Gaz, no offence taken, it's literally impossible to offend me, be it with the stranger on the internet, or with a mate at the camp fire. I recognise that all people are different and I have zero expectations of others, especially so on the internet. From every conversations in my life I'm absorbing what I find useful to myself and ignoring the rest.
G'day Islander7 mate after 23 pages have you and if so what have you settled on and what caliber ?
As your post initially was for a 223 in my opinion that is quiet a capable caliber for what you want it for and a good all round caliber period
Sorry if I have asked a question that has been answered but I switched off some time back so hope all goes well with your final decision
I think Islander7 will be quiet happy with his decision of the 22 hornet as for the brand I know absolutely nothing about it
bigfellascott wrote:He ended up deciding on the 22 Hornet in the Weihrauch brand.