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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Flyer » 10 Jan 2019, 2:20 pm

Islander7 wrote:What scope rings are suitable to install a 56mm scope with 30mm tube on to HW 66 Production rifle? Which are the best? Are there any difference between cheap and expensive ones? Any recommendations are welcome

Hmm, the 30mm scope does restrict your choice somewhat. Normally I'd recommend Burris Signature Rings, but they only fit 25mm scopes.

So you have Talley high rings here: https://www.talleymanufacturing.com/pro ... ail-setup/

And Warne medium rings here: https://warnescopemounts.com/product/73 ... ium-rings/

Or CZ medium rings here: https://www.winchesteraustralia.com.au/ ... -7000-01ND

Or here: https://www.cz-spare.parts/mount-cz-452 ... 30mm#tb1=2

I have Warnes on my Weihrauch, but the CZ rings look like a nice bit of kit. Both medium heights will fit the 56mm objective, but beware of different brands, as Leupold "high" rings are lower than Warne and CZ "medium" rings etc.
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by duncan61 » 10 Jan 2019, 2:54 pm

56mm scope on a Hornet with a 30 mm tube that's for 270 win up to magnums.my 7mm R.E.M. Has a 52mm Leopold and it's more than enough a 40 mm nighteater in 6-8 x is Hornet size
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Ziad » 10 Jan 2019, 6:23 pm

Hes spent the money already mate......lol

Btw just got a set of steiner rings... at 32grams each they feel like made of paper....added benefit. ....made my wallet 32grams lighter as well
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by SCJ429 » 10 Jan 2019, 7:19 pm

bladeracer wrote:
SCJ429 wrote:You could ask about a 204 Ruger and end up with a 300 RUM.



Or even more likely, end up with both of those...as well as something else :-)


I wish I could have owned a 204 as my second rifle.
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Islander7 » 10 Jan 2019, 7:47 pm

Flyer wrote:
Islander7 wrote:What scope rings are suitable to install a 56mm scope with 30mm tube on to HW 66 Production rifle? Which are the best? Are there any difference between cheap and expensive ones? Any recommendations are welcome

Hmm, the 30mm scope does restrict your choice somewhat. Normally I'd recommend Burris Signature Rings, but they only fit 25mm scopes.

So you have Talley high rings here: https://www.talleymanufacturing.com/pro ... ail-setup/

And Warne medium rings here: https://warnescopemounts.com/product/73 ... ium-rings/

Or CZ medium rings here: https://www.winchesteraustralia.com.au/ ... -7000-01ND

Or here: https://www.cz-spare.parts/mount-cz-452 ... 30mm#tb1=2

I have Warnes on my Weihrauch, but the CZ rings look like a nice bit of kit. Both medium heights will fit the 56mm objective, but beware of different brands, as Leupold "high" rings are lower than Warne and CZ "medium" rings etc.


Thanks Flyer - very much appreciate all your help mate!

I'm a bit lost though, do I also need to buy ring bases separately or the rifle comes with them installed? I'm trying to find various photos of the rifle on the web but get mixed results.
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by bladeracer » 10 Jan 2019, 7:48 pm

SCJ429 wrote:I wish I could have owned a 204 as my second rifle.


My second was .222Rem when I was a kid. This time around my first was the .204, but only because I had to wait for the .22LR to come from another dealer - I ordered them at the same time.
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Flyer » 11 Jan 2019, 2:09 am

Islander7 wrote:
Flyer wrote:
Islander7 wrote:What scope rings are suitable to install a 56mm scope with 30mm tube on to HW 66 Production rifle? Which are the best? Are there any difference between cheap and expensive ones? Any recommendations are welcome

Hmm, the 30mm scope does restrict your choice somewhat. Normally I'd recommend Burris Signature Rings, but they only fit 25mm scopes.

So you have Talley high rings here: https://www.talleymanufacturing.com/pro ... ail-setup/

And Warne medium rings here: https://warnescopemounts.com/product/73 ... ium-rings/

Or CZ medium rings here: https://www.winchesteraustralia.com.au/ ... -7000-01ND

Or here: https://www.cz-spare.parts/mount-cz-452 ... 30mm#tb1=2

I have Warnes on my Weihrauch, but the CZ rings look like a nice bit of kit. Both medium heights will fit the 56mm objective, but beware of different brands, as Leupold "high" rings are lower than Warne and CZ "medium" rings etc.


Thanks Flyer - very much appreciate all your help mate!

I'm a bit lost though, do I also need to buy ring bases separately or the rifle comes with them installed? I'm trying to find various photos of the rifle on the web but get mixed results.

They're ring mounts - you don't need anything else. The Weihrauch has an 11mm dovetail and the base of the ring-mount clamps on to it.

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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Islander7 » 11 Jan 2019, 3:41 am

Perfect, Thanks for the photos, exactly what I was looking for!
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Islander7 » 11 Jan 2019, 8:39 am

Just received my scope in the mail today.

I've got a quick question about eye relief/eye box on various premium scopes. Eye relief on my scope is ok and comfortable enough up to X9, however past X9 it' kind of difficult to 'catch' the image, possible but difficult. Is this normal? Is it because lack of experience from my side or is it something that other scopes (Swarowski, Leupold etc) do much better? The scope is unmounted, will this problem be rectified once I mount it?

Unfortunatelly I have nothing to compare it with, the only other scope I looked through was some cheapo they provided during the firearm course and it was terrible in this regard imo. In my local firearm dealer they only stock budget scopes, so can't check it in person either..

Totally happy with the scope otherwise, not as bulky/heavy as I expected it to be at all, definitelly happy with my 56mm choice, just concerned about eye relief on higher magnifications a bit. Still can return it and get something else, however it doesn't make much sense if other scope if going to perform similarly in this area..
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by bigfellascott » 11 Jan 2019, 8:59 am

Islander7 wrote:Just received my scope in the mail today.

I've got a quick question about eye relief/eye box on various premium scopes. Eye relief on my scope is ok and comfortable enough up to X9, however past X9 it' kind of difficult to 'catch' the image, possible but difficult. Is this normal? Is it because lack of experience from my side or is it something that other scopes (Swarowski, Leupold etc) do much better? The scope is unmounted, will this problem be rectified once I mount it?

Unfortunatelly I have nothing to compare it with, the only other scope I looked through was some cheapo they provided during the firearm course and it was terrible in this regard imo. In my local firearm dealer they only stock budget scopes, so can't check it in person either..

Totally happy with the scope otherwise, not as bulky/heavy as I expected it to be at all, definitelly happy with my 56mm choice, just concerned about eye relief on higher magnifications a bit. Still can return it and get something else, however it doesn't make much sense if other scope if going to perform similarly in this area..


I'm sure it will be fine once you mount it and get consistent head position on the stock. :drinks: Wait until ya crank it right up and start seeing ya heart beats through it :D
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Daddybang » 11 Jan 2019, 9:11 am

Not sure why it is so but I was using a 25x setting on a mates rpr the other day and had a lot of trouble getting a full scope until I wound it back to 10x. I tend to lean my head a lot less than my mate (neck gets stiff very quickly due to playin rugby League when I was a teenager) and he didn't seem to have any problems getting a scope.

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Photo hopefully shows what I mean by "not leaning. :thumbsup: :drinks:
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Gaznazdiak » 11 Jan 2019, 9:17 am

Not leaning?
Hell DB, you lean any more you'll be upside down.
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Daddybang » 11 Jan 2019, 9:22 am

Gaznazdiak wrote:Not leaning?
Hell DB, you lean any more you'll be upside down.
You on the side of a steep mountain or using an Apple?


:lol: its one of those weeks where all my photos come out sideways for some reason!!
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This one without the hat probably shows it better! :drinks:

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Compared to my mate...

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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by bigfellascott » 11 Jan 2019, 9:38 am

Daddybang wrote:Not sure why it is so but I was using a 25x setting on a mates rpr the other day and had a lot of trouble getting a full scope until I wound it back to 10x. I tend to lean my head a lot less than my mate (neck gets stiff very quickly due to playin rugby League when I was a teenager) and he didn't seem to have any problems getting a scope.

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Photo hopefully shows what I mean by "not leaning. :thumbsup: :drinks:


Your eye isn't lined up right, could be the height of the mounts v your head position the comb etc, that's why they make different height mounts etc to suit. It's all got to be lining up to see through em right :D
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Daddybang » 11 Jan 2019, 9:48 am

Yep but that's the only way I could get a full scope at 25x :unknown:
I reckon I'll just stick to my 3-9x!!! :lol: :drinks:
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by allan » 11 Jan 2019, 11:13 am

Islander7 wrote:Thanks Flyer - very much appreciate all your help mate!

I'm a bit lost though, do I also need to buy ring bases separately or the rifle comes with them installed? I'm trying to find various photos of the rifle on the web but get mixed results.


They're ring mounts - you don't need anything else. The Weihrauch has an 11mm dovetail and the base of the ring-mount clamps on to it.


Islander7 - Your new rifle should arrive with a set of Weaver style bases & screws in the carton and should also have 4 tiny "filler" screws installed in the holes on top of the receiver. Both mine arrived that way. Perhaps Flyer will confirm. If you're using mounts that clamp to the dove tail, I would leave the filler screws in the receiver and put the supplied bases & screws away carefully. Mine appear to be a "Weihrauch Special" thread - Certainly not the standard 6/48 threads found on most rifles.
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by duncan61 » 11 Jan 2019, 4:12 pm

scopes are easy to mount and adjust.once on at a comfortable distance I would set up a 3 foot target at 25 metres and shoot 3 into it cleaning after every shot and see where they are going then set the rifle as solid as you can on bullseye and adjust your scope to the actual point of Impact and you should be close at longer ranges I would set a hornet at 100 metres not sure what others may advise.And yes we are going to get 20 pages on this topic
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by bladeracer » 11 Jan 2019, 4:43 pm

Daddybang wrote:This one without the hat probably shows it better! :drinks:


What's with the strange cheek weld and massive eye relief on that scope DB?
The back of my scope is about one-inch forward of the back of the pistol grip on the RPR.
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