Remington 788 -anyone here got one?

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Remington 788 -anyone here got one?

Post by Dossa456 » 02 Jan 2019, 7:58 pm

Howdy,
just joined up hoping someone on here had some info on a 222 I just got hold of or also have the same rifle.
I got a second hand 222 Remington 788 it has a very smooth action, loose as a goose magazine, feeds ect okay though. Grabbed it because it was cheap supposedly was a good shooter. Will try out some various ammo next week.
Mainly wondering if anyone else here has the 788 in 222 and what ammo they are feeding it. Factory or handloads. I Wouldn’t have a clue if original barrel or twist rate ect.
Thanks Dossa
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Post by bladeracer » 02 Jan 2019, 11:23 pm

Dossa456 wrote:Howdy,
just joined up hoping someone on here had some info on a 222 I just got hold of or also have the same rifle.
I got a second hand 222 Remington 788 it has a very smooth action, loose as a goose magazine, feeds ect okay though. Grabbed it because it was cheap supposedly was a good shooter. Will try out some various ammo next week.
Mainly wondering if anyone else here has the 788 in 222 and what ammo they are feeding it. Factory or handloads. I Wouldn’t have a clue if original barrel or twist rate ect.
Thanks Dossa


I don't, but my first centrefire was the 788 in .222Rem in 1983.
Never put any factory ammo through it but it shot very well indeed.
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Post by bigpete » 03 Jan 2019, 2:34 am

Yes,I've got one in 223 that was dads fox shooting rifle from when he did it to supply pelts. Prior to this one I did have a 222 as well
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Post by duncan61 » 03 Jan 2019, 9:00 am

For .222 I load 22.2gn 2208 Its slightly under ADI charts recommended but simple to remember.I get around 2800fps which is more than good enough.Accuracy is perfect and by more luck than judgement the POI is the same as Highland AX at 100metres so I can top up with factory ammo and the Highland AX brass is very good for reloading.Highland ammo gets a bad rap because its 2/3 less expensive than other brands but I have found it to be excellent
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Post by Rod_outbak » 03 Jan 2019, 9:26 am

We had a 788 in .223 as our station rifle for about 30 years; it finally became too expensive to repair/maintain, but by then it had fired many, MANY thousands of rounds, and had a hard life.
About the only mod we did to it was replace the trigger with a Timney about 15 years back.

Yep; magazine is loose as buggery. It seems to be a 'feature' of the 788. I understand the latter mags were plastic, but ours are metal.

Here's a link to figure out when yours was made:
https://www.remingtonsociety.org/manufacture-dates/
[Rummage around a bit on this site to get a more firm idea of yours..]

Overall, the 788 was a great little budget rifle.

However, a few problems kept coming up:
1). Dependant on the brand of primer in the ammo we were using, the firing pin would pierce the primer, and then the small disc of metal would blow back into the bolt itself. Once a few of these had happened, the firing pin would seize up, and the bolt has to be disassembled to clean all the discs out. Initially, we trialled adjusting the firing pin strike length (distance it protrudes out of the bolt face), but you walk a fine line between repeated misfires, or holes in primers. Upon advice, we switched to a heavier primer in our reloads, and while we solved most of this, we were still getting firing pin jams every so often. The firing pin has a 1-inch long tip which is just sitting on the end of the pin proper, and it's easy for this tip to get bent.
[If we'd sent the bolt to a decent gunsmith, I'm sure they could have resolved this by machining a larger firing pin hole, and pin to suit, but decent gunsmiths that you can meet face to face are a bit rare in outback QLD, and this rifle wasnt worth a lot...]
2). The 788 had a reputation for the safety being inherently dangerous due to it's design. Something about the safety getting dangerous over time with use. Advice on a LOT of the forums is to never trust the safety AT ALL. I couldnt figure out why we'd not had any problems with ours, but then I found a post by the gent who said that all of the problems with the 788 were easily fixed, and he said that the safety issue was resolved if you fitted a Timney trigger. I then realised that we'd fitted a Timney about 20 years ago, to improve the trigger, so now understood why we'd never encountered this issue.
3). The 788 had a reputation of being extremely accurate, and the .222 was supposed to be the most accurate of them all. From what I have read, they were one of the first (budget) production rifles that pretty much shot sub-moa out of the box. If the barrel is half-decent, you should find it is a keeper.
4). Our extractor failed ~18 years back, and it was cheaper/simpler to have a gunsmith machine a sako-style extractor setup into the bolt. I see the old 788 ring-type extractors are occasionally available through people like rebel Gun Works, so you mightnt need to do this.
5). SOMEWHERE in this rabbit-warren I call home, I have a bag of the bits & pieces I pulled off our 788 before it was chopped. All the screw-on metal bits, and a couple of stocks. I cant recall if I removed the trigger or not(I hope I did), but I did find the Timney packet with the original trigger in it, if thats any help. Pretty sure there is a couple of spare magazines, if you'd like them. HOWEVER, dont hold your breath while I go look for them!
6). We trialled a 'Champion' brand of synthetic stock on our 788 for a few months, but it broke in half! Never had that happen on either of the wood stocks we have here for it...

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Post by duncan61 » 03 Jan 2019, 9:39 am

Good story.I feel like I was there.You sure answered the Question
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Post by marksman » 03 Jan 2019, 10:49 am

very good review Rod
I would like to add to it if you dont mind

1) these pierced primers are called blanking or cookie cutting because of the metal disk it cuts out
the fix is to have the firing pin hole reamed and sleeved, or could be firing pin spring, or firing pin extrusion adjusted or sometimes changing to a thicker cup primer works
2) the 788 was one of the rem models affected by a dangerous trigger design that shot when the trigger was not cleaned properly, apparently
http://discussions.texasbowhunter.com/f ... 60141.html
Mike Walker who designed the trigger advised Remington about the flaw and gave them a fix 12 months after but it was ignored
3)The 788 had a reputation of being extremely accurate, and the .222 was supposed to be the most accurate of them all.
apparently that's why they stopped selling/making them because they cut they sales of the flagship model the BDL

the trigger is what I would change out then I recon you would have a good safe rifle :thumbsup:
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Post by Dossa456 » 03 Jan 2019, 4:22 pm

wow great information thanks,

Rod id happily take up your offers and happy to work out some sort of deal, swap you some brass or something of interest.
I got the Rifle with scope for $350 with a gunslick cleaning (brand newish) Kit 40 live rounds, 40 once fired cases, hillver mounts and a Arctic fox IR scope- i swapped this out straight away for a vortex 4-12 I had lieing around.Will be mainly used on the vineyards.
I will test out next Wednesday and give some feedback.
Still working out the forum functions will try post some snaps.
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Post by bigpete » 03 Jan 2019, 5:37 pm

In my 222 I found winchester supreme 40gn Silvertips were the most accurate. It didnt like heavier than 50gn stuff. And I agree with the trigger,plus there can be problems with the extractor too
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Post by Rod_outbak » 03 Jan 2019, 6:54 pm

[quote="Dossa456"]
wow great information thanks,

Rod id happily take up your offers and happy to work out some sort of deal, swap you some brass or something of interest.
I got the Rifle with scope for $350 with a gunslick cleaning (brand newish) Kit 40 live rounds, 40 once fired cases, hillver mounts and a Arctic fox IR scope- i swapped this out straight away for a vortex 4-12 I had lieing around.Will be mainly used on the vineyards.
I will test out next Wednesday and give some feedback.
Still working out the forum functions will try post some snaps.
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Dossa456,
Give me a few days to rummage around.

About 3 years ago, the local gun shop gave me all the bits off a 788 he was chopping up(.223), so I ended up with the bits & pieces for two of them (including the stock).
From my recollection, I should have 2 wooden stocks, a couple of bolts, most of the screw-on hardware, I think 2 magazines, and there should also be a picatinny rail somewhere.
All were off a .223, but all of it should fit straight onto the .222.
Stocks are in distinctly used condition(as is everything), and I think I started sanding the second one back in an effort to tidy it up, but never got to finish it. The bolt has been fitted with a Sako-style extractor, but then it also had problems with the crap getting inside it.
[My suggestion is keep it in case you have problems with your extractor, and then find a gunsmith that you can hand our bolt to and get him to rectify the problems with our firig pin.]
Big question-mark is whether I stripped the Timney trigger off before having it chopped, but until I find it all, I wont know for sure.
I have a sneaking suspicion I did remove it...

I'll get back to you when I've been rummaging...
Not really overly concerned about money for the parts; glad to see they might help someone else.

[Mind you; I've got to FIND them, first!]

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Post by gunnnie » 03 Jan 2019, 7:41 pm

Have three 788's sitting in the safe - 222 (waiting on a new stock), 22-250 (needs new stock & I have a 24" fluted bbl waiting to fit) & a 223 version which was converted to a single shot in 22PPC. I did own a 222 15yrs ago which had the chamber re-cut to 223 & it shot like stink.

Problems I found with my 223 were the bolt stop & the trigger. Trigger was a heavy SOB & all I ever heard was replace with a Timney or throw the rifle away, trigger isn't re-workable. Well I met a 'smith by the name of Pete Nesbitt in Casino, NSW, who reckoned others were just being lazy & couldn't be bothered. Well he worked the trigger over, producing a glassrod crisp release of a tad over 2lb.

Just before I took the rifle to Pete, I had a problem where the bolt would come out if you pulled back far enough. Pete said the bolt stop had worn to a point where it no longer engaged the bolt. So he built it back up to height & reshaped it.

With a Hornady 52gn Match BTHP over 24gns of AR2206, this rifle could shoot .75" if I made an effort.

The 22PPC 788 has also had trigger work & it is very light & crisp. So the standard Remingtom trigger on these can be worked to produce very good results if the 'smith knows what they're doing. The previous owner wanted to try his hand at benchrest, but not prepared to pay for a rifle to suit. The 788 has a cylindrical action, the fastest locktime of any bolt rifle at that time, and a known accuracy potential. So he had his converted. This rifle shoots far better than I am able and I need to spend more time at the bench with it.

These rifles have a dedicated following and certain models will pull high prices. Namely the 44mag & 30-30 models. Mags can be dear to buy, if you can find one & spare parts as rare as unicorn dung. Doesn't help that Numerichs won't sell to Australian customers anymore. I managed to score the parts I needed for the PPC (bolt stop, ejector pin & spring, spare extractor clip & rivet ) as the previous guy had removed these to allow placing a round on the boltface , inserting the bolt & chambering. Unfortunately, these parts were not provided with the rifle when I bought it.

Get a few different brands of ammo with projectiles in the 50-55gn weight to try. If you reload, don't push max velocities as the rear locking action will lead to shortened case life.
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Post by Dossa456 » 03 Jan 2019, 8:24 pm

No worries Rod, sounds good.
all the information so far as been super helpful- i should of joined up on here earlier.
Anyone from SA ever want to catch up for a hunt happy for you to PM me.
I dab in a bit of everything. Always good to chat to fellow shooters.
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Post by bladeracer » 03 Jan 2019, 8:32 pm

Damn it, feel like I'm going to have to find myself another 788 in .222Rem. You guys are making wish I still had mine :-)
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Post by Bridgy » 03 Jan 2019, 8:55 pm

Hey Dossa,

That'd be my old .222 you've got there. If I can answer any questions about it you have I am happy to, but the information from others here has been even more than I was able to find in my searching - I should have posted earlier too!

Hope the ol' girl serves you well mate. I think with that scope you've put on and some lighter projectiles than what I used it will be a real tack driver!
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Post by bigpete » 03 Jan 2019, 9:06 pm

Hell you can't work the trigger. Dad did his.
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Post by Dossa456 » 03 Jan 2019, 9:14 pm

Hey Bridgy; yea I’m real impressed with it. Would you say the trigger has had any work done to it. Liking the idea of a timney though. Really looks the part now with the vortex on top. Taking for a proper run Wednesday mate. Will let u know the results, also I registered it the next day I picked it up lol. If ur ever up this way and wanna have a shot you can just need some notice.
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Post by Bridgy » 03 Jan 2019, 9:19 pm

I don't know if the trigger has had any work to it, but that said, when I bought it it came from a shop and they didn't have much info. When I stripped it down to clean it up I did clean some gunk out from around the trigger and added a drop of oil to the mechanism which felt to me like it improved it - it certainly didn't feel too clunky! A bit of travel in it, but it felt good. I also checked out Timney triggers for it, but at the price I was finding them for in the States I was happy to stick with the standard one!

I appreciate the invite too - if I'm ever gonna be up your way I'll definitely let you know!
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Post by duncan61 » 03 Jan 2019, 9:21 pm

Win Win did you sell it because you have a .223?
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