Got the little Ruger American Rifle Ranch 300AAC/BLK singing

[Sergeant Hartman]

Lot of people use the Lee undersized Manvel to great effect.

I also saw a post about a guy going to from a (cci or federal) to a s&b primer and getting 15fps more without changing anything at all. I suppose it effects the way powder is burnt

[Blr243]

I too have heard that because of the silly little shoulder on the case short ammo and big chambers often result in misfires on blackouts. I’ll be reloading for mine when the sucker turns up

[Blr243]

I too have heard that because of the silly little shoulder on the case short ammo and big chambers often result in misfires on blackouts. I’ll be reloading for mine when the sucker turns up

[SCJ429]

If you need a little more neck tension could you put your existing mandrel into a drill and polish it up with sandpaper? Have you run out of tension with the existing one and the brass will not hold the pill?

[in2anity]

I too have heard that because of the silly little shoulder on the case short ammo and big chambers often result in misfires on blackouts. I’ll be reloading for mine when the sucker turns up

Mine is reliable with CC400s and fireformed brass. You could also try a softer primer like Federal or Winchester - I bet they’d work good too.

[in2anity]

If you need a little more neck tension could you put your existing mandrel into a drill and polish it up with sandpaper? Have you run out of tension with the existing one and the brass will not hold the pill?

Yeah I’ve heard of people doing this - although I picked up an undersized mandrel for only $15 delivered from the bay - I suppose I like the idea of preserving the original mandrel. If it were more expensive I’d probably diy though

[MJW380]

I see they’ve just brought out a ranch rifle in 350 Legend, a new cartridge from Winchester, basically a straight walled .223 case that accepts a .357/358 bullet, sort of an upsized .300 BO

[in2anity]

I see they’ve just brought out a ranch rifle in 350 Legend, a new cartridge from Winchester, basically a straight walled .223 case that accepts a .357/358 bullet, sort of an upsized .300 BO

Interesting concept - it looks like a rimless straight cartridge? Suppose that would mean it's headspaced off the mouth? (helping mitigate stretching?). Then again, probably not so good with lead (requiring a flare) - can't crimp a rimless straight wall right?

[JimTom]

Will be interesting to see if the 350 legend gains any traction.

[MJW380]

Chuck Hawks review was fairly critical of it

[in2anity]

Chuck Hawks review was fairly critical of it

Yeah I saw that - made sense. It’s really not that far ahead of a hot 30/30 load in a strong gun like a Marlin. And what about a 375 win?

I can see the advantages for the handloader though - I think brass life would be good, not to mention quick to turn around loads with a carbide die. And I suppose you could seat any jacketed 357 projectile? It’d definitely make an interesting experiment.

[duncan61]

Same poop different shovel.I am aware that some residential areas have restrictions on firearms in the USA and it fits into the slot but and 8 inch drop at 200 does not give me the horn

[wrenchman]

i do agree duncan and it is going up against the 450 that has filled that spot very well but it needs to be out a little while to see what the hand loader do with it.
I have read a little about it with the 357 pills and worry about how they perform the 444 marlin has a problem with some rounds.

[wanneroo]

I think things are getting a bit ridiculous with all these new cartridges coming out.

[JimTom]

I think things are getting a bit ridiculous with all these new cartridges coming out.

Yeah mate I tend to agree. You would think that anything new is just replicating ballistics that already exist. Still it is nice to try something new occasionally.

[in2anity]

But I do think people get caught up ragging on cartridges however - as handloaders, we should be focusing on guns rather than ammo. If a gun and ammo combination shoot really good, and do the job for the intended purpose, then it's in my books a good package.

[wanneroo]

I think things are getting a bit ridiculous with all these new cartridges coming out.

Yeah mate I tend to agree. You would think that anything new is just replicating ballistics that already exist. Still it is nice to try something new occasionally.

Definitely I like different stuff but it seems that this necking up and necking down fad is getting a bit crazy lately, so many new cartridges that you can't keep up with them.

[gunnnie]

Have found the OP's initial posts re what he's done to his RARR, very informative, & plan on doing the same with my Ruger.

Using the Outback factory rounds loaded with 125gn SMK's, my rifle will put 5rds into .5" @100m. The Woodleigh loaded factory ammo is not as good but not shabby either, at around the inch @ 100m for 5rds.

I have a range of various 30cal pills from 110 - 135gn to use in reloads. Also have Lil'gun, 2205 & 296 powders to work with. I'm also keen to trial sml pistol primers. I use these for my Hornet & K-Hornet loads.

[JimTom]

Let us know how it works out mate.

[in2anity]

Have found the OP's initial posts re what he's done to his RARR & plan on doing the same with my Ruger.
Using the Outback factory rounds loaded with 125gn SMK's, my rifle will put 5rds into .5" @100m. The Woodleigh loaded factory ammo is not as good but not shabby either, at around the inch @ 100m for 5rds.

I have a range of various 30cal pills from 110 - 135gn to use in reloads. Also have Lil'gun, 2205 & 296 powders to work with. I'm also keen to trial sml pistol primers. I use these for my Hornet & K-Hornet loads.

It seems a lot of people have success with the 125gr pills doesn't it. I should really give mine a run with some pricier pills - but tbh moa is enough for me - i shoot mainly field positional so i don't need insane accuracy - poor shots come from me more than the rifle!

Given pricing, the Rugers are accurate guns - in a time not so long ago you'd spend a lot of money getting a rifle to shoot like that - just goes to show how much barrel making has improved.

[gunnnie]

So true mate.
I've been a long time fan of Savage rifles & out of the box they were known for being accurate. The RARR & RPR didn't disappoint either.
The one new rifle that did surprise me though was my Zastava LK M70 in 9.3x62Mauser. The 'average ' synthetic stock & light, light barrel is not what I would consider an accuracy rig. But, with facttory PPU 286gn rounds, this rifle puts 3rds into .6" @ 100m, blowing out to .8" for 5rds.
I picked up a Manners stock for it in the hope it will tame the recoil a little. I just hope the accuracy ability remains.

[JimTom]

Have found the OP's initial posts re what he's done to his RARR & plan on doing the same with my Ruger.
Using the Outback factory rounds loaded with 125gn SMK's, my rifle will put 5rds into .5" @100m. The Woodleigh loaded factory ammo is not as good but not shabby either, at around the inch @ 100m for 5rds.

I have a range of various 30cal pills from 110 - 135gn to use in reloads. Also have Lil'gun, 2205 & 296 powders to work with. I'm also keen to trial sml pistol primers. I use these for my Hornet & K-Hornet loads.

It seems a lot of people have success with the 125gr pills doesn't it. I should really give mine a run with some pricier pills - but tbh moa is enough for me - i shoot mainly field positional so i don't need insane accuracy - poor shots come from me more than the rifle!

Given pricing, the Rugers are accurate guns - in a time not so long ago you'd spend a lot of money getting a rifle to shoot like that - just goes to show how much barrel making has improved.

Yes mate the 125gr SST seems to do the trick with mine. This is 5 shots at 100m. Well and truly good enough for what I do. Disregard the the 123 SST annotation on the target. I must have been having a moment.

[in2anity]

Yes mate the 125gr SST seems to do the trick with mine. This is 5 shots at 100m. Well and truly good enough for what I do. Disregard the the 123 SST annotation on the target. I must have been having a moment.

Is that with AR2205? also what primers are you using?

[JimTom]

Yeah mate, Hornady 125SST, AR2205, and Federal small rifle primers, loaded in ADI brass.

[in2anity]

Yeah mate, Hornady 125SST, AR2205, and Federal small rifle primers, loaded in ADI brass.

Interesting - i have a tonne of Winchester small pistol primers and AR2205. Might be worth a revisit with your 17.5gr load

[JimTom]

I seated the projectiles to the cannelure however did not crimp. Seems to work for me.

[JimTom]

I seated the projectiles to the cannelure however did not crimp. Seems to work for me.

[in2anity]

I seated the projectiles to the cannelure however did not crimp. Seems to work for me.

crimps are for levers

[JimTom]

[duncan61]

So that is what that the knurled band on some projectiles is for.Crimping lever action reloads so they dont push the bullet in when loading in a spring tube magazine I assume