on_one_wheel wrote:It'll take more than that to convert me away from Remington 700 rifles.
I must admit though, I'm yet to hear a bad word about Tikka rifles.
straightshooter wrote:.......My tikka is so fantastic wild game come to me and beg to be shot with it.............
Sorry must have fallen into a dream while typing.
My dream must have been instigated by the numbers of tikka spruikers being out in force at the moment.
I suppose we are getting towards the end of the financial year and sales targets do have to be met.
I further suppose that those tax refunds coming in a couple of months time will need to be put to good use as well. Might as well get the saliva flowing early.
TassieTiger wrote:Lots of claims, so little evidence...lol
marksman wrote:on_one_wheel wrote:It'll take more than that to convert me away from Remington 700 rifles.
I must admit though, I'm yet to hear a bad word about Tikka rifles.
not having a crack at you on one wheel but I have heard a few bad words about tikka's
eg... cant load long in long rifle cases 30-06, 300wm ect..... one size action fits all, 223 in a long action
too much plastic, try floating the barrel on one of there plastic stocks, stocks crack when tightened up, recoil pads are sh!t
plastic trigger guards that will break eventually, front sling stud that will break with a bipod mounted under even .243 recoil
plastic bolt shroud but you can upgrade, can have problems extracting cases
magazines fallout, magazines dont hold enough ammo, cant top load the magazine in the action
factory ring screws strip throwing your new scope onto the ground or if you are lucky you find out when only one screw has and you are shooting shotgun patterns
tikkas are not made to shoot reloads (explanation from a company rep after being asked why they dont make a longer mag for 300wm)
like a plumbers gun you buy the rifle then spend up big on tweaks,fixes and upgrades
the tikka is best viewed as a normally accurate rifle, the design is to produce the best possible results based on the cheapest possible platform
marksman wrote:
and SCJ429 I would gladly put my stock factory ruger vt 22-250 up against your tikka out to 400
it's the only new rifle I have ever bought and at 200 it's like I shoot one shot onto the target then shoot another four over the top of the target
they do not come like that every day but it would be good if they did
TassieTiger wrote:I see a lot, a lot of claims about 1/2 Moa results and better on tikkas (and similar) but ppl can say and do what ever - this is one reason I like to add a photo or two into any threads where I might make accuracy claims showing distance to target and actual results. (Sure - I could have wasted 3-5 bullets by walking up to point blank but seriously lol)
I think some casual shooters get hung up on Moa claims (and I admit - I’m one of them...well Was, I’m working on it with my psychologist) - and sure MOA is a target to aspire too, but not every tikka (or more importantly - owner /set up) will shoot 1/2 Moa...but for some reason, a lot of ppl feel the need to sprout their unsubstantiated accuracy claims...true 1/2 Moa at 100 is effectively all bullets touching...it’s far from an easy undertaking and I’ve seen very few real world or pictures on forums showing 1/2 Moa results.
I do like my tikka, not greatly more than any other rifle I own but as MM said - it’s price was at the top of its design for scope of works...
Stix wrote:TassieTiger wrote:I see a lot, a lot of claims about 1/2 Moa results and better on tikkas (and similar) but ppl can say and do what ever - this is one reason I like to add a photo or two into any threads where I might make accuracy claims showing distance to target and actual results. (Sure - I could have wasted 3-5 bullets by walking up to point blank but seriously lol)
I think some casual shooters get hung up on Moa claims (and I admit - I’m one of them...well Was, I’m working on it with my psychologist) - and sure MOA is a target to aspire too, but not every tikka (or more importantly - owner /set up) will shoot 1/2 Moa...but for some reason, a lot of ppl feel the need to sprout their unsubstantiated accuracy claims...true 1/2 Moa at 100 is effectively all bullets touching...it’s far from an easy undertaking and I’ve seen very few real world or pictures on forums showing 1/2 Moa results.
I do like my tikka, not greatly more than any other rifle I own but as MM said - it’s price was at the top of its design for scope of works...
I hear those claims too Tassie...but i think its all about landing on a good rifle & the right powder/bullet combo, & having vast experience at reloading & knowing when to give up on a particular bullet...
I dont have that knowledge.
But then, here is me trying a new bullet legal for roos recently..
Left target is first 3 shots of day...
I suspect the double group on seconnd target is me & my poor choice of gun rest--a caldwell tackdriver bag at front & a sports sock filled with sand at the rear...
Anyway...
Same morning final target...
There are 3 different powder charges here--be stuffed if i can tell the difference so i went with the middle one...
From there i moved one click left...
Then i put one shot into a 12" gong at 300 to get a picture of drop, then put another into a 4" gong at 300 to comfirm the hold-off for wind & holdover...
Then out in the real destruction permit world with real distances & no bench, it did this...
And for the sake of things, lets call this 220 yds/200 mtrs...if you get my drift...
This same rifle is what i knock my foxes with using 32 Zmax--not as accurate but still well under 1"--plenty accurate for a fox out to 300ish...
Its stock standard, trigger wound back as light as possible with original spring...
havnt cleaned it in ages...
Im very happy... ...but its a fukn PITA not being able to top load & only 4 shot mag..
SCJ429 wrote:marksman wrote:
and SCJ429 I would gladly put my stock factory ruger vt 22-250 up against your tikka out to 400
it's the only new rifle I have ever bought and at 200 it's like I shoot one shot onto the target then shoot another four over the top of the target
they do not come like that every day but it would be good if they did
I have heard good things about Ruger barrels which is great for an old Ruger tragic like me. But for Tikkas I have seen the results from a 223, 22/250, 243 and a 6.5 and they are all outstanding. Even the Sako 204 has shot under 0.2 of an inch. A bloke cannot get that lucky and Tikka must be doing something right. I cannot post pics from this iPad but will PM you my number and if you want to respond I will send you some targets shot in competition off a Harris bipod as a friendly rivalry of Tikka vs Ruger.
SCJ429 wrote:Pressure point bedding looks different to what we are use to but no budget rifle builder is properly bedding their actions. People think that an aluminium plate or a couple of pillars means their rifle is bedded. I thought guys were shooting groups at 50 and then posting them as proof of how their Tikkas were accurate at 100 until a mate bought one. That changed my perspective and had to admit that you can shoot 1/4 MOA using that horrible Tupperware stock. I had to get a few myself and find it hard to recommend anything else.
Another mate bought a Howa varmint in 308, you can see where the button reamer has chattered all the way up the barrel. One hundred rounds of running it in and it still copper fouls badly. You never see this with a Tikka or Sako.
SCJ429 wrote:Pressure point bedding looks different to what we are use to but no budget rifle builder is properly bedding their actions. People think that an aluminium plate or a couple of pillars means their rifle is bedded. I thought guys were shooting groups at 50 and then posting them as proof of how their Tikkas were accurate at 100 until a mate bought one. That changed my perspective and had to admit that you can shoot 1/4 MOA using that horrible Tupperware stock. I had to get a few myself and find it hard to recommend anything else.
Another mate bought a Howa varmint in 308, you can see where the button reamer has chattered all the way up the barrel. One hundred rounds of running it in and it still copper fouls badly. You never see this with a Tikka or Sako.
Bruiser64 wrote:I have no idea if my Tikka shoots 1/2 or 1/4 moa. I do know it shoots minute of roo and fox vital. My Tikka is a hunting rifle and has all the field accuracy I require. One day, when I can be bothered, I will see what size group it shoots. The Tikka has a smooth action. Has been reliable in the field and meets my needs. I am happy with my purchase. Would I buy another one? Dunno. I will have to wait until I wear out one of my existing rifles. If I had the funds and l had a valid need, I quite like the .223 Anschutz. Or maybe a 30/06, brand to be decided. I am not a brand loyalist. They are all really just consumer products of large companies. As long as the company supports the product and they replace it if you bought a dud is the main thing.
Bruiser64 wrote:I sighted it in to be 1 inch high at 100 metres. The group was about an inch or less with the handloads I use. I periodically recheck the zero. It hits what I aim at. I can’t be arsed mucking about with refining the load to explore if variations in the load tightens or expands the group size. The point I was making was that although I am happy with my Tikka, but I don’t think it is likely to be infinitely superior to other products on the market. It does what I want it to do and that’s good enough for me and the shooting I do. You pays your money and you takes your chances