6.5 Grendel Who has one?

[madang55]

Looking at a 243, was shown a 6.5 Grendel, meets my needs, began to drool the more I found out, just need that little bit more of an urge. I am so going to get one, unless some real, thats actually real, not armchair, not what I can read from the web for myself, info comes forth.
Cheers

[Bill]

Hey why not I have 2 Howa mini, just a fun gun to shoot, ridiculous cheap accurate factory ammo if your in QLD,

Similar performance to the 243 out to 250m with alot less of the sonic boom.

My HB Howa mini shoots around 0.7moa 5 shoots groups with factory ammo, only mod is the 1.5lb trigger from that ebay aussie

[Bill]

What Grendel are you looking at mandang55 ?

I was planning on offloading my sporter in the next week as I need safe space for a 357.

[SCJ429]

I use a 6BR with light projectiles and a 7mm BR with heavier pills for hunting. Accurate and lots of fun, what is not to like. You won't regret getting the Grendel.

[madang55]

What Grendel are you looking at mandang55 ?

I was planning on offloading my sporter in the next week as I need safe space for a 357.

Sorry, put a deposit on a mini action Howa 1500 this afternoon. It was on the shelf calling my name and there aint too many other factory builts around. There were a few CZ527 a couple of months ago, but they disappeared. Also purchased a bulk buy of 200rds for $280 in 123gr BTHP Hornady.
1st 2 weeks of October are going to be busy.

[madang55]

Hey why not I have 2 Howa mini, just a fun gun to shoot, ridiculous cheap accurate factory ammo if your in QLD,

Similar performance to the 243 out to 250m with alot less of the sonic boom.

My HB Howa mini shoots around 0.7moa 5 shoots groups with factory ammo, only mod is the 1.5lb trigger from that ebay aussie

I have obviously missed something. Ammo is cheaper in QLD? WT!!

[Bill]

Yeah $209/200 rounds for the American Gunner (Hornady) 123gr HPBT , this s**t is so accurate it should be banned lol

Good news on the new gun mate, did you get the sporter ?? Go straight to the 1.5lb trigger from the Gunbloke on ebay, 2lb is good and its what I have in my sporter but 1.5lb just even better, its what I have in my HB

[in2anity]

Also purchased a bulk buy of 200rds for $280 in 123gr BTHP Hornady.
1st 2 weeks of October are going to be busy.

Mate you should get into handloading, perhaps even just the lee hand press and cheap lee components to start; it'll totally change your perspective on shooting. Check out the Speer 90gr TNT bullet - you can pick em up for under 50c/peice, and they are a darned good bullet. They shoot way above their price point. Combine that with a full case of powder from the 22cal region, and your'e looking at 70c a pop for a potentially very accurate shooter with reasonable wind-bucking ability.

[madang55]

Oh, I does handload. Time is the problem. I'm off the grid now for a couple of weeks, when I get back I need to be straight into it. 200rds will see me good for brass until I can get good dies, and begin playing. Like Bill says this Hornady stuff has a real good rep. Cheers.

[Cooper]

I have two Grendels. A Howa mini sporter and CZ MTR 6.5 Grendel. I wish the American Gunner stuff was available when I first got my Grendel. I paid more for new emptie brass. I paid $235 for 200 American gunner ammo in Vic.

[Bill]

Hey Cooper thats a good price for Vic, I might have to do another trip down there and wouldnt mind stocking up, where did you find the Gunner ammo ?

[Cooper]

Hey Cooper thats a good price for Vic, I might have to do another trip down there and wouldnt mind stocking up, where did you find the Gunner ammo ?

Centreway. I think he only had a couple of boxes left. Normally $250. But will normally negotiate a bit.

[Bill]

bugga I was in there a month or 2 ago, thanks Cooper

[Dagda]

yes love the lil Grendel, am making my way through a couple of boxes of American Ammo then will reload and see what I can get my groups down to !

[JimTom]

G’day fellas,

Anyone have any preferences for Grendel brass? What brand are you using or would you recommend?
Not the cheapest stuff in the world to purchase.

[Bill]

Hey JimTom how many ya need, I have some once fired Hornady, happy to part with a 100 if ya need some ?

Lapua just too expensive ( usually $250/100) to even bother with and the Hornady stuff you'll find has a very good reputation amongst the Grendel fans.

[solarpak]

The Howa Mini is a cracker of a rifle and in 6.5 G - if you can find ammo OR handload - would be a great outfit.
I personally have the 7.62x39 Russian in the Mini and to sort out my ammo problem i managed to find a case (1200 rounds) of Norinco steel cases bullets.
A mate who also has a Mini in the same calibre (and reloading gear too) picked up some bulk Hornady Z Max bullets (the last of them!!) and essentially pullet the factory Norinco slug and seated the Z max. The rounds shoot into half -inch at 100 metres and are all we need for culling pests out to 200m - the effective range (for us) for the 7.62x39 in the Mini action.
Great little action - and some loopy but very effective calibres!!
C.

[JimTom]

Hey JimTom how many ya need, I have some once fired Hornady, happy to part with a 100 if ya need some ?

Lapua just too expensive ( usually $250/100) to even bother with and the Hornady stuff you'll find has a very good reputation amongst the Grendel fans.

Mate thank you for the offer. Sincerely appreciated. Will grab some Hornady from my local.

[Bill]

All good mate, if you struggle to get a good price happy to post 100 up for $60

[JimTom]

Thanks mate I will keep it in mind.

[wannabustbunnies]

I have spent the weekend searching the interwebs about the 6.5 Grendel and it sounds like a good little round.
I would get a varmint barrel mini action and possibly another Bell & Carlson M40 stock with DIP bottom metal like I have on my 204 or an Oryx.
I have a 6.5 Creedmoor already but that is purely a comp gun and this would be a nice all rounder that is pretty capable. Another bonus is I can use the same powder BM8208 and primers CCI450 as my 204 and 223.
No one is really listing them on their websites though. Anyone in NSW come across the American Gunner 200 packs for anything close to that Qld shop is selling it for?

[Bill]

Yeah I couldn't find nuthing better than 285/200 and that was in ACT

I'm down in Vic for work and will be driving back via centre way, if your keen I ll grab a box for myself and a 2nd if ya keen, will ring em first thing tmw am to see if I can get a good price??

Happy to bring you back 200

[wannabustbunnies]

Cheers for the offer but I am still looking at this stage, might be a present to myself in a couple of months.
Centre Way had them advertised for $250, not sure if that is still valid or not though

[madang55]

Ok, I have the Howa Mini Action. 1st thing I did was fill the trench with fibre-glass resin, routed it out a bit, and now it free-floats and is way stiffer than original.
Took it to the range, happy days, one big hole at 100yds, however the factory ammo, which was all I had, was 8 inches low at 200. Not happy days, the label on the factory ammo lied, it should have had it at around 2 inches low at 200. no matter, my re loads will be better. But what a treat to shoot. Now for the really pee-ed off part. Was on the hunt over the weekend and that bloody magazine release is a nightmare. I lost count of how many times it dropped out on me because when I carried in one hand, the balance point is right on the front of the magazine. I ended up taking the mag out when ever I didn't think I was going to need it. I have sent an appropriately and descriptively worded email off to Howa, telling them it basically sucks. And, yes, I was careful to make sure the mag was inserted properly. The only fix I can see is taking a Dremel to the catch and shortening it down to flush with the stock. I will wait and see what Howa have to say on the matter.

[Shootermick]

I picked a Howa up last Saturday, had to order some ammo in but it hadn’t arrived so I took the rifle and haven’t been back yet for the ammo, so it’s still unfired. Could only get the sporter barrel, OSA said the heavy barrel is a special order, doesn’t mean there’s not one sitting in a shop somewhere though, but I couldn’t be stuffed ringing all around the shops trying to find one. Happy with the look and feel of the sporter anyway, and all my other rifles are heavy, so a lighter one is a nice change. North Vic Ammo Supplies got some Grendel ammo in today, $250 for 200, cheaper than what I’m paying for my ordered stuff, but too far out of my way right at the moment.

[Bill]

Yeap both my Grendel I have cut the mag release down, zero chance of bump n release

The factory AGunner ammo we threw over the chrono and we got 2450fps so it def undefloaded for use in ARs but it is wonder accurate.

[madang55]

I have two Grendels. A Howa mini sporter and CZ MTR 6.5 Grendel. I wish the American Gunner stuff was available when I first got my Grendel. I paid more for new emptie brass. I paid $235 for 200 American gunner ammo in Vic.

If the American Gunner stuff is the bulk 200/Hornady 123g HPBT, that's what I have. Supposed to be 1.8" high at 100 and zero at 200. Nah....Zero at 100 ended up being 8" low at 200. Took a nice fallow at 100, but I'm guessing the MV ain't what it says on the box. It will however, make good brass. I reckon I will be able to push 95 Vmax a whole lot harder and flatter. I'm also going to invest in a Bell and Carlson for it, when I can find one that's not 4 months away.

[Cooper]

I have two Grendels. A Howa mini sporter and CZ MTR 6.5 Grendel. I wish the American Gunner stuff was available when I first got my Grendel. I paid more for new emptie brass. I paid $235 for 200 American gunner ammo in Vic.

If the American Gunner stuff is the bulk 200/Hornady 123g HPBT, that's what I have. Supposed to be 1.8" high at 100 and zero at 200. Nah....Zero at 100 ended up being 8" low at 200. Took a nice fallow at 100, but I'm guessing the MV ain't what it says on the box. It will however, make good brass. I reckon I will be able to push 95 Vmax a whole lot harder and flatter. I'm also going to invest in a Bell and Carlson for it, when I can find one that's not 4 months away.

I did magneto speed the American Gunner loads out of my CZ (it has 25.6 inch barrel) factory stuff was only doing 2440 FPS. Think it said 2590 FPS on the box. I was expecting the long barrel to up there velocity wise. Still a new barrel and I usually find factory claimed velocities are about 100fps slower than claimed. But most of my other rifles only have 20 to 22 inch barrels. So that needs to be factored in.

[madang55]

So, zeroed with the 123grHP Hornady factory. Went a hunting. As luck would have it, only fired two shots. 1st shot, took a small fallow, dropped her on the spot, 2nd shot a follow up to be sure. Missed, but she was down. On inspection the hit was on the 'center line', but a little further back than I would have liked, and I would have expected the projectile to have gone though this particular animal, but it didn't. I think back to my day at the range and the ballistics on the box definitely a bit out. I don't think the 123 hit any where near hard enough. I wasn't able to retrieve the projectile or have a look inside at the wound itself, pitch black. SO, I've pulled all of the factory and am going to load with 85gr HP and 95gr SPBT, drive them a whole lot faster. I've kept the 123gr projectiles in case I have second thoughts. My 1st thoughts are that the Grendel, whilst a credibly accurate 6.5, doesn't have the powder capacity of the Creedmore so the lighter proj are going to be flatter and harder hitting. Yes? No?

[SCJ429]

Extra speed is an advantage to a point, shoot something in the guts with a 6.5/378 Waetherby and it will still run off. The Grendel is most effective if combined with shot placement and moderate distances.

The Grendel is more than credibility accurate and will shoot inside the Creedmoor under most conditions.

You have done well and bagged two deer with yours, paid for itself.