Stix wrote:Gees...the flogging you boys are giving Blade is what id expect to see you give an anti gun vegan...
And i dont see how projecting wide ranging generalised & non-specific definitions of fair & unfair on to Blade have anything to do with his opinion of what he personally deems unfair advantage to what he personally defines as hunting...
As he says--he's only answering a question...
Is the guy that drags cars down the qurter mile delusional if he thinks a super car has an unfair advantage over a formula vee...?
Or is he delusional because a rally car driver doesnt consider the drags a form of car racing...
I know im opening myself up to a barrage of abuse from ya's, but i respectfully think you're putting a slant on Blade's opinion that isnt there...
Its pretty clear he holds a heavy respect for any animals lives & them not being put through unnecessary pain...nothing wrong with that at all...!!...
And as a different point, he's said what he finds enjoyable about the more traditional "hunt" for him...
He's also said he hasnt shot much (or any... ) by spotlight & doesnt consider that to fulfil his definition of "hunting"...so be it...
I dont see the problem...
To a point i agree with him--i love my foxing by spotlight, & to have a dumb pup stand staring at the light only 25 yds from the car & shoot it in the face is nothing more than pest destruction...
Id rekon if Blade came with me, & experienced me having to try out smart an educated mature cunning fox in a calculated chase through 4 or 5 paddocks spanning the best part of an hour, having to navigate gates, terrain, hidden rabbit or wombat burrows, sheep (and stray sheep & lambs during lambing) & the wind, to either finish up lost & fox-less or finally getting a 3 second window for a shot, only to dry fire on an empty chamber, he'd see there is a form of spotlighting you can call a hunt.
But maybe he hasnt experienced ithis...
Anyway...just saying...i dont see him to be the delusional crazy you're making him out to be--i think thats stretching what he's said...
Hey xDom...i might need one of those beers soon with whats coming my way...
duncan61 wrote:I am in.I paid for a safari to Ahrnem land to "HUNT"Trophy Buffalo and the best thing that happened apart from catching a Barramundi was I learned I am not a Hunter.I was raised on spotlighting foxes rabbits and roos as a teenager then progressed to pro culling Roos shot a heap of goats out the Midwest and all out of a car the only walking involved was to collect the game.The other chap on the Buffalo trip was from Victoria and his idea of a good time was wandering around alpine country for days looking for Samba.Big fat pass from me.Could ones preference be what you have done before and what is available.I tried walking for goats on a station out of Cue and 5 km in went back and got the ute.In the west you may have to drive a long way between game.If you see the windmill then walk in on foot is that hunting.We all do different disciplines I like target shooting many roo cullers I met think it is a waste of ammo and cant you shoot straight already.A lot of people have jazzed up .22LR and just go to the local club and shoot paper at 50 metres
bladeracer wrote:bigfellascott wrote:]What a load of s**t, Oh I only use methods that won't upset an animals enjoyment of it's day - f*** me dead I've never heard of such crap from someone who hunts - I g'tee any animal would be upset if it got killed no matter the method
You are Delusional if you don't think what you are doing doesn't cause some sort of negative effect on either the animal you shot or those around it!
You are Delusional if you don't think what you are doing doesn't cause some sort of negative effect on either the animal you shot or those around it!
You are delusional if you believe any animal cares about anything when it's dead Yes, animals can be traumatized by others being killed around them, if they notice.
You seem perfectly happy, and well equipped, to attack and abuse somebody that has a differing opinion, but not so ready to offer your own view. My view of hunting does not require a dead animal to be fulfilling, the hunting is the enjoyment for me. I have been out with people whose only goal is to kill everything that moves, that doesn't do it for me.
Wasn't this entire diversion started by you disparaging somebody for spotlighting deer?
bigfellascott wrote:No I was questioning whether it was legal in SA as it's not here (that may be changing or has changed here recently - haven't bothered to check where its at) I honestly don't care if people shoot deer under a light and half pissed, that's entirely up to them, as for you thinking that because you don't bother shooting under an artificial light source and thinking that somehow what you do is morally superior and more ethical is somewhat delusional in my opinion
P.S. I don't bother shooting everything that moves either and honestly couldn't care less if I do/don't shoot something, I just enjoy being out in the bush like you do by the sounds of it, if I shoot something that's the cherry on top so to speak
Stix wrote:The state govt here in SA are on the march to rid this state of all feral deer...
They think its able to be done with a proactive attitude if its acted on now...
They dont want an industry (recreational hunting of deer) like you have in NSW & Vic due to the cost to the agriculter industry...
So that means deer are just like cats--shoot em & destroy as many as you can, as quick as you can....
I nearly got one a while back--was only 30 yds & was gonna pop it with sub hp's in the 22...didnt happen though...
The govt have groups go through the parks spotlighting them--they encourage spotlighting bambi here...
Right or wrong...?...dunno...
I understand this govt also mandates that when trspping dogs, rubber jaw'd traps be used for the sske of the animals welfare...but get this--along with the rubber jaw traps, its apparently also mandatory to use strychnine on the trap...
Ever seen a dog die from 1080 or strychnine...???...
How thats in the interest of animal welfare is beyond me...
Our Govt must have suffered a dose of "Cane Toad" intellect dysfunction in making that law...
bigfellascott wrote:Stix wrote:The state govt here in SA are on the march to rid this state of all feral deer...
They think its able to be done with a proactive attitude if its acted on now...
They dont want an industry (recreational hunting of deer) like you have in NSW & Vic due to the cost to the agriculter industry...
So that means deer are just like cats--shoot em & destroy as many as you can, as quick as you can....
I nearly got one a while back--was only 30 yds & was gonna pop it with sub hp's in the 22...didnt happen though...
The govt have groups go through the parks spotlighting them--they encourage spotlighting bambi here...
Right or wrong...?...dunno...
I understand this govt also mandates that when trspping dogs, rubber jaw'd traps be used for the sske of the animals welfare...but get this--along with the rubber jaw traps, its apparently also mandatory to use strychnine on the trap...
Ever seen a dog die from 1080 or strychnine...???...
How thats in the interest of animal welfare is beyond me...
Our Govt must have suffered a dose of "Cane Toad" intellect dysfunction in making that law...
At least your state allows it which is a good idea - to me they are nothing special and I see em like any other pest animal that needs controlling.
bladeracer wrote:bigfellascott wrote:Stix wrote:The state govt here in SA are on the march to rid this state of all feral deer...
They think its able to be done with a proactive attitude if its acted on now...
They dont want an industry (recreational hunting of deer) like you have in NSW & Vic due to the cost to the agriculter industry...
So that means deer are just like cats--shoot em & destroy as many as you can, as quick as you can....
I nearly got one a while back--was only 30 yds & was gonna pop it with sub hp's in the 22...didnt happen though...
The govt have groups go through the parks spotlighting them--they encourage spotlighting bambi here...
Right or wrong...?...dunno...
I understand this govt also mandates that when trspping dogs, rubber jaw'd traps be used for the sske of the animals welfare...but get this--along with the rubber jaw traps, its apparently also mandatory to use strychnine on the trap...
Ever seen a dog die from 1080 or strychnine...???...
How thats in the interest of animal welfare is beyond me...
Our Govt must have suffered a dose of "Cane Toad" intellect dysfunction in making that law...
At least your state allows it which is a good idea - to me they are nothing special and I see em like any other pest animal that needs controlling.
I agree, but kicking them to death with steel-caps would be infinitely more humane than 1080, that stuff is disgusting. Spotlighting is the best way to keep them under control.
Peter988 wrote:So what about the 204 discussion. I was enjoying that.
bladeracer wrote:Peter988 wrote:So what about the 204 discussion. I was enjoying that.
Hopefully xdom has already ordered himself a .204
I love the Ruger American Predator myself, in .204 and in .223.
xDom wrote:bladeracer wrote:Peter988 wrote:So what about the 204 discussion. I was enjoying that.
Hopefully xdom has already ordered himself a .204
I love the Ruger American Predator myself, in .204 and in .223.
I've already got a Ruger American in 22 Mag. Neat little rifle. nice and light. Would that be the same format as the American Predator in .204?
My Magnum was only about $650, if I remember.