I’m learning

[Blr243]

Weird topic title. Looks like my new Howa Varmint rifle is fitted with a two stage trigger. I have heard of them. I think I tried one in a gun store once. But I def never owned one or hunted with one. Does anyone Here hunt with a two stage trigger ? And another question , when I’m loading for 22250 and I choose to try just neck sizing with a collet die, I imagein that mostly my brass will shrink back a bit after firing each Time and I can use only the collet die mostly but now and then If my cases grow too much I will have to resort back to normal dies to ensure reliable chambering?

[Jarhead]

Hey BLR243,

Can't help with the trigger- can help with the die question.

You will get 4-5 firings out of a neck sized only case before the shoulder "grows" long enough to jam the bolt. The result is a heavy lift after firing. I mark those for full length sizing when it happens. Full size back to SAAMI spec once, and then start over- 4-5 firings with neck sizing. This works for me and a few others I shoot with.

[boingk]

Hi mate, I live and breathe two-stage. I've used them growing up and continue to do so.

Think of it as an inbuilt safety. The blade moves inward to the trigger, first step of the pull. It counts for nothing, pull-weight wise. Once its flush with the trigger, you start the trigger pull proper. Pressure here counts. I favour a lightish trigger and the two-stage helps with this.

Hunting? Yeah, they're good. Take in the blade while you're centering the shot, start applying weight once its on target full. Like I said, think of it as another layer of safet. It means you can have a very light trigger and not worry about an accidental discharge as you have to take up the blade pull first. I've seen far too many single-stage triggers which would not have negligently discharged if they were a two-stage... or had a more careful operator.

- boingk

[marksman]

heres a bit of info on your rifle you may not have seen
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/tag ... t%20action.

l like the older single stage howa triggers better, but l do use a kepplinger 2 stage set target trigger but that is different because it sets a light trigger

you will be right with the lee collet die and the occasional bump back, but what it is is if its hard to close the bolt the shoulder needs bumping back but if its hard to open the bolt the case head needs squeezing in a tad

[in2anity]

You know you can get Timneys for the HOWA, right blr? Nevertheless if you put in the time though, you can certainly become intimate with when your second stage breaks.

[TassieTiger]

This will fix any and all concerns you might have. It’s easy as piss to fit - and turns into a clean and crisp single stage.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Howa-1500-1 ... SwZlZaRkKY

[duddley75]

Whilst I am not hunting yet, I really like the feel of my two stage Howa for target shooting.

The first stage gets me ready and the 2nd is crisp.

[Blr243]

TT, i already ordered one from gunbloke as per your suggestion the other day ... Only 20 bucks delivered. Unfortunately my marlin trigger from brownells was 240 delivered ......thanks fellas for the input. Very good info.