BangWhizzClack wrote:Yes, I click baited this bitch, no I am not ashamed of myself.
I am wondering what experiences people have had with pre 1900 or whatever firearms that don't need to be registered. Can you shoot them? Any decent yet not terribly expensive examples?
Cheers!
bladeracer wrote:BangWhizzClack wrote:Yes, I click baited this bitch, no I am not ashamed of myself.
I am wondering what experiences people have had with pre 1900 or whatever firearms that don't need to be registered. Can you shoot them? Any decent yet not terribly expensive examples?
Cheers!
If you want to fire antique firearms you have to licence them.
BangWhizzClack wrote:bladeracer wrote:BangWhizzClack wrote:Yes, I click baited this bitch, no I am not ashamed of myself.
I am wondering what experiences people have had with pre 1900 or whatever firearms that don't need to be registered. Can you shoot them? Any decent yet not terribly expensive examples?
Cheers!
If you want to fire antique firearms you have to licence them.
I'm guessing they don't typically come with serial numbers. Is ammo reasonable to make/find?
No1Mk3 wrote:G'day BangWhizzClack,
As bladeracer said, to qualify as exempt devices under Section 3 of the Act your firearm must be made before 1900 (not just designed, ie: an M1895 Steyr made in 1906 doesn't count) and ammo must not be commercially available. In our State that has a slightly different meaning than some other States and for practical purposes means you cannot go into a retail gunshop and buy it over the counter, it does not mean small production runs by specialist makers or reloading, nor if it is commercially available overseas. Serial numbers are not needed unless you wish to register the rifle so you can shoot it, at which time if it doesn't have a number LRD will allocate you one which must be affixed by stamping or attaching a tag with the number securely (I use small brass discs on a couple of mine that I tie wire to the sling swivel) If you choose to register & shoot them ammo will be easy, hard or Effing Appalling according to cartridge such as 577/450 Martini or 577 Snider, simple as (not cheap, but easy), 11.15x58R Comblain harder, 10.17x44 Rimfire appalling. None of them are really cheap but with Bertrams help nothing is impossible. Prices are variable depending on what you want and what you consider reasonable, a Mk 1 or 2 Martini Henry rifle in good condition can be often found for $900 to $1200, Kropatschek bolt actions for $800 or so, Snider Cavalry Carbines about $1000, poorer condition for less or you could pay 1000's for an 1871 Mauser Carbine or Jaeger rifle or a Jarmann. Now the crux, shooting without registering. These things are actually exempt from all operations of the Firearms Act, so some people believe they can use them, some have even been told so by their DFO but the truth is doing so contravenes the Act in the respect of "discharge a projectile" and also get picked up by the Dangerous Weapons provisions as well as the Crimes Act. A very good QC (read 10's of 1000's of dollars) would most likely win in court for you but you will have your licence suspended and all your guns seized until then, might take years, want to be the one to try it? To save a bit of fussing around registering? I have been a long way down this path, this is my wall of Pre-1900 Obsoletes, Cheers
bladeracer wrote:BangWhizzClack wrote:bladeracer wrote:BangWhizzClack wrote:Yes, I click baited this bitch, no I am not ashamed of myself.
I am wondering what experiences people have had with pre 1900 or whatever firearms that don't need to be registered. Can you shoot them? Any decent yet not terribly expensive examples?
Cheers!
If you want to fire antique firearms you have to licence them.
I'm guessing they don't typically come with serial numbers. Is ammo reasonable to make/find?
To be classified an antique there must be no commercial ammo available. That's why firearms way older than that are not "antiques", because ammo is still available for them. Military firearms will very likely be serialised, civilian firearms probably not.
eddievic wrote:No1 man you and blade would have your own museum if you were in the states
bladeracer wrote:eddievic wrote:No1 man you and blade would have your own museum if you were in the states
I know what my firearms have cost me, I shudder just thinking about how much No1Mk3 has invested!
BangWhizzClack wrote:bladeracer wrote:eddievic wrote:No1 man you and blade would have your own museum if you were in the states
I know what my firearms have cost me, I shudder just thinking about how much No1Mk3 has invested!
I guess, some people are just more fortunate than others :p
BangWhizzClack wrote:If only we could have it all.
bladeracer wrote:BangWhizzClack wrote:If only we could have it all.
Then there'd be nothing left to lust after