bigpete wrote:That sounds incredibly dangerous to me tbh
how so?
bigpete wrote:That sounds incredibly dangerous to me tbh
bigrich wrote:all this talk about quiet chambering , on a model 70 or other cock on close rifle , i will chamber a round then as i'm closing the bolt , decock it by keeping my finger on the trigger as the bolt closes. all with the rifle pointed in a safe direction of coarse . when i see game , just lift and close the bolt . it's now cocked and ready to fire .almost a silent move on a push feed model 70. works for me . quieter than cocking a hammer on a lever gun
deye243 wrote:bigrich wrote:all this talk about quiet chambering , on a model 70 or other cock on close rifle , i will chamber a round then as i'm closing the bolt , decock it by keeping my finger on the trigger as the bolt closes. all with the rifle pointed in a safe direction of coarse . when i see game , just lift and close the bolt . it's now cocked and ready to fire .almost a silent move on a push feed model 70. works for me . quieter than cocking a hammer on a lever gun
You mean cock on opening cock on closing is 303 British and what you just described is the reason why I refuse to hunt with other people you leave the firing pin hard down on a primer with a 20 odd # spring on a primer the stupidest thing I've ever heard
deye243 wrote:bigrich wrote:all this talk about quiet chambering , on a model 70 or other cock on close rifle , i will chamber a round then as i'm closing the bolt , decock it by keeping my finger on the trigger as the bolt closes. all with the rifle pointed in a safe direction of coarse . when i see game , just lift and close the bolt . it's now cocked and ready to fire .almost a silent move on a push feed model 70. works for me . quieter than cocking a hammer on a lever gun
You mean cock on opening cock on closing is 303 British and what you just described is the reason why I refuse to hunt with other people you leave the firing pin hard down on a primer with a 20 odd # spring the stupidest thing I've ever heard
deye243 wrote:Take your bolt out of the rifle and drop the bolt handle you will see the firing pin protruding way out past the bolt face is what I'm talking about
ZaineB wrote:ive heard all this before, I have put blue marker on my primers and not a mark, conclusion, it doesnt touch...
well mate nothing safe about safety's nearly been shot by people who rely on those, cant say the same about those who decock
Gun-nut wrote:ZaineB wrote:ive heard all this before, I have put blue marker on my primers and not a mark, conclusion, it doesnt touch...
well mate nothing safe about safety's nearly been shot by people who rely on those, cant say the same about those who decock
If you've nearly been shot under those circumstances, I think it says more about the kind of people you're hunting with than with any inherit fault in mechanical safeties. If it takes a a significant amount of mental gymnastics for someone to understand the ins and outs of a rifle safety then they probably shouldn't be hunting in the first place.
ZaineB wrote:mate if its not touching enough to take off blue whiteboard marker then it aint touching bud. by your logic it should be setting off rounds when they are removed unfired from the chamber.
deye243 wrote:ZaineB wrote:mate if its not touching enough to take off blue whiteboard marker then it aint touching bud. by your logic it should be setting off rounds when they are removed unfired from the chamber.
This will be my last input on this subject so by your logic if that is not touching your primer you have over 0.040" to 0.080" of excessive headspace I don't care what your blue marker says
Oldbloke wrote:This is waaay off topic.
Anyway. Wouldn't just leaving the bolt open be a good option? Years ago I believe it was a common thing to do.
bigpete wrote:That sounds incredibly dangerous to me tbh
dnardy wrote:
I AM interested in your favourite deer hunting rifle as I want to add a dedicated stalker setup to my collection.
dnardy wrote:Just to get this topic back on track:
With a bolt action i walk with the bolt open- I'm not interested in your opinion on this.
I can't do this with my 7600 pump action as it's too noisy to chamber a round in a deer hunting situation (I bought it when I was chasing pigs off a quad). I don't like to rely on the safety.
I AM interested in your favourite deer hunting rifle as I want to add a dedicated stalker setup to my collection.
bigrich wrote:well , wow . looks like i stirred up some controversy . i think i should've been more specific about the circumstances . when stalking up on cover i use this method , treating the rifle as "live" with due respect to safety . the rifle i employ this method in doesn't have a exposed back to the firing pin , so it can't be knocked into hitting the primer to ignite it . i don't travel with the rifle in this condition , most often in hunting areas the bolt is closed on a empty chamber with live rounds in the magazine
i say again i only use this method when stalking up on game as it's quieter and less fuss than fumbling with the safety . again , i don't just walk around like this , this method is only employed during a stalk and the rifle is treated as "live" . after the stalk is over the rifle is unloaded . i don't trust safety's as a rule and don't load my rifles relying on the safety alone . it's good to see people who take safety seriously , and i personally wouldn't do anything to endanger myself or others
sorry if i've upset anyone
Larry wrote:ZaineB the firing pin must touch the primer in the uncocked position otherwise it would never fire. I dont think you would find that a rifle in this condition could accidentally be discharged. I would rather have the bolt closed on an empty action any day of the week.
animalpest wrote:Favourite is a Tikka T3.
But there are a few people that won't be with me when I am hunting given some of the posts here.
animalpest wrote:.308 for most stuff. Or a .243 for fallow
bigrich wrote:animalpest wrote:.308 for most stuff. Or a .243 for fallow
i was playing around with loads for my 243 today , it's a nice accurate caliber . my prefered caliber is a 270 . i load 150 sst's with re22 as a "do all" load . have you ever tried a 270 ? just looking for feedback on other peoples experiences .
bigrich wrote:animalpest wrote:.308 for most stuff. Or a .243 for fallow
i was playing around with loads for my 243 today , it's a nice accurate caliber . my prefered caliber is a 270 . i load 150 sst's with re22 as a "do all" load . have you ever tried a 270 ? just looking for feedback on other peoples experiences .