bigpete wrote:Mine
Tubs wrote:bigpete wrote:Mine
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Oldbloke wrote:Tubs wrote:bigpete wrote:Mine
Whats yours?
Big Pete is a man of few words. Lol
ZaineB wrote:would rock a 270, can carry some 90gn projies loaded up for smaller game and 130 or 150 for bigger game, gun is approx 4kg, and with everything else you would presumably be carrying the gun is probably one of the lighter items.
truth be told there are tonnes of calibers that can do this but I would probably stick between 6mm and 7mm so 257/25-06 right up to maybe not a magnum 7mm so probably a 280 or 7mm-08
Tubs wrote:ZaineB wrote:would rock a 270, can carry some 90gn projies loaded up for smaller game and 130 or 150 for bigger game, gun is approx 4kg, and with everything else you would presumably be carrying the gun is probably one of the lighter items.
truth be told there are tonnes of calibers that can do this but I would probably stick between 6mm and 7mm so 257/25-06 right up to maybe not a magnum 7mm so probably a 280 or 7mm-08
would have thought a 243 would be more versatile? Hitting small game with a 270 is still fine red mist?
Tubs wrote:
Diamond Jim wrote:I don't own one but for the scenario you give I'd lean toward a .22Mag. Not too much for small game and capable with shot placement for just about anything you'd encounter in a "live off the land " scenario.
Tubs wrote:bigpete wrote:Mine
Whats yours?
Diamond Jim wrote:I don't own one but for the scenario you give I'd lean toward a .22Mag. Not too much for small game and capable with shot placement for just about anything you'd encounter in a "live off the land " scenario.
in2anity wrote:I heard a saying once “the shotgunner never goes hungry”. Don’t forget about slugs. https://youtu.be/nNTyCcip-ks
straightshooter wrote:In the 50's and 60's the 25/303 was considered the "all round" Australian rifle.
Come the 70's and that concept was displaced, through a combination of hype and actual performance in the field, by the 243. It still has a considerable presence among occasional hunters and doesn't look like it's going away in a hurry.
These days due to the diversity of opinions available on the internet, both sound and unsound, it seems like almost anything goes.
Getting back to the original poster's selection the obvious answer would have to be the 223 especially if he is a handloader.
The statement "the 1 in 12 twist is the problem - cant shoot anything over 55gn." then would contain a substantial misconception if the right projectiles can be found.
Suitable 70 grain projectiles that would work in a 12" twist were commonplace before the present day mania for the highest possible claimed BC along with fancies of successfully taking game at 400, 500 meters or more.
animalpest wrote:Partly depends on where you are. What animals you would or could be taking to allow you to live off the land.
If it's rabbits and roos then that's a different rifle and calibre need than for goats, pigs or deer.
Shotgun can be used to take small stuff including birds. And is capable at short range on just about anything else.
Living off the land means being able to get sustenance on whatever is available. It may mean a duck or 2 rabbits. Shooting a 100+ kg animal still only means a couple of meals without a fridge.
What are you most likely to see that is a meal?
bigpete wrote:Tubs wrote:bigpete wrote:Mine
Whats yours?
Which one ?
Out of mine I'd probably pick my 308 as an all rounder and just head shoot small game. Any centrefire firing soft points will destroy a bunny with a body shot. Only exception I've experienced is shooting them with a 303 and fmj ammo
bigrich wrote:Diamond Jim wrote:I don't own one but for the scenario you give I'd lean toward a .22Mag. Not too much for small game and capable with shot placement for just about anything you'd encounter in a "live off the land " scenario.
The US Air Force survival rifles during WW2 were chambered in 22 hornet. During the Vietnam war they switched to 22 mag I believe. With a well placed shot with a full metal jacket projectile, you could take anything for food. And you could carry a lot of 22mag ammo on you. That’s a true survivalist scenario. The only other thing I would consider as a one gun mountain/pack rifle would be a 243 shooting heavy for caliber projectiles at moderate velocity, with accuracy being the important part.
A 30-30 is good as long as the range isn’t long and it’s got a scope. I can’t use factory sights these days cause of aging eyes. Model 94’s are a nice, light gun that point well
If heavy construction projectiles were available for the 223 I might have included it .
I guess choice all comes down to the scenario. A tikka t3 lite stainless in 243 with a 2-7 scope would be the ultimate mountain/ pack/hiking rifle I reckon.
So tubs, you need to go buy a tikka t3 lite stainless in 243 and load some 90gn partitions or 90 gn nosler bt’s . Hope I’ve helped you to purchase another rifle
Harrynsw wrote:22LR because I knew a guy who's uncle once killed 100kg pig with one...
And now with the comedy out of the way I would probably just go my 30/30. Accurate enough to blow a rabbits head off at 50m, big enough to take a deer down. All with moderate recoil.
Tubs wrote:
Yep I handload. Ive been told 55 grains is the max, but have never tested the theory. Heavier pills out of the 223 are something Id like to experiment with. Any recommendations? The rifle is is a Tikka lite. Nosler .224 60 gr Partition sounds interesting.