25-35 Winchester

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25-35 Winchester

Post by Bill » 12 Jan 2022, 8:18 pm

Spent an hour or so this arvo annealing and then running some ancient 30-30 brass thru some fresh Lee 25-35 Win dies. I had only trim 20 thou off after sizing

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Re: 25-35 Winchester

Post by LawrenceA » 12 Jan 2022, 8:47 pm

What are you feeding?
Single shot, Lever??
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Re: 25-35 Winchester

Post by Bill » 12 Jan 2022, 9:06 pm

Yeap the 256 Martini is getting reamed early Feb :thumbsup:

Quite surprised about how much more performance the old 25-35 has with modern powders at modest pressures

I have heaps of LVR and CFE on hand so light and heavies projectiles are covered.

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Re: 25-35 Winchester

Post by LawrenceA » 13 Jan 2022, 5:55 am

That will make a sweet rig.
Look forward to seeing how it shoots.
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Re: 25-35 Winchester

Post by Bill » 13 Jan 2022, 7:17 am

Yeah it should go alright LawrenceA :thumbsup:

The 256 already shoots smalls groups so Im hoping that transfers over to the bigger case .....
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Re: 25-35 Winchester

Post by bigpete » 13 Jan 2022, 7:37 pm

Very interesting.
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Re: 25-35 Winchester

Post by LawrenceA » 13 Jan 2022, 8:18 pm

Any chance of a piccie of the gun?
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Re: 25-35 Winchester

Post by Bill » 13 Jan 2022, 8:21 pm

hay bail porn :drinks:

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Re: 25-35 Winchester

Post by gunnnie » 13 Jan 2022, 8:29 pm

Looking fwd to see how you go with this one Bill.
I've got a Cadet action that I'm planning on building as a hex barrelled 25-35WCF. Have the dies, form dies, qty of new 30-30 brass & mould. Just need to get the build happening.
Bill, what bbl length on your rig?
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Re: 25-35 Winchester

Post by bladeracer » 13 Jan 2022, 8:35 pm

Bill wrote:hay bail porn :drinks:

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That looks bloody sweet!
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Re: 25-35 Winchester

Post by Bill » 13 Jan 2022, 8:43 pm

Hey gunnnie pretty sure she is 22 inch, not going to get her out of the safe tonight.

Now a Hex barrel would be dandy, this barrel was off a unfired Mod 70 so the twist is good for all bullets.

Got another Martini build on the cards this year, just waiting for the barrel to show up, will be a 44 Magnum on a thick framed BSA
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Re: 25-35 Winchester

Post by bigpete » 13 Jan 2022, 9:06 pm

Very nice,just needs iron sights :)
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Re: 25-35 Winchester

Post by gunnnie » 14 Jan 2022, 9:43 am

Bill wrote:Hey gunnnie pretty sure she is 22 inch, not going to get her out of the safe tonight.

Now a Hex barrel would be dandy, this barrel was off a unfired Mod 70 so the twist is good for all bullets.

Got another Martini build on the cards this year, just waiting for the barrel to show up, will be a 44 Magnum on a thick framed BSA

Cheers Bill, thought it looked around the 22-24" mark. I was planning on 24" to max on ballistics for lead pills in the 90-100gn range. Will be powder coated & gas checked.
Got to love the Martini based rifles eh! I recently added an 1896 ME 303 to the collection & it shoots my home rolled 198gn loads very well at 100m.
Also have another Martini build in the pipeline. It will be built on a ME action and chambered in 32-40. Have the dies, mould & brass, action is on the way. Just need the funds to get it started.
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Re: 25-35 Winchester

Post by LawrenceA » 14 Jan 2022, 10:31 am

Thanks for the pic.
Very sweet.
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Re: 25-35 Winchester

Post by Bill » 14 Jan 2022, 2:16 pm

Hey LawrenceA what are your thought on using necked up 5.6x52R as donor brass.

I was looking at the dimension of the 25-35 and drawings show 0.506 rim dia, 0.063 rim thickness and 0.422 case head dia

Now the 30-30 brass I sized has 0.494 rim dia, 0.062 rim thickness and 0.415 case head dia

and 5.6x52R brass I have on hand and have neck up measures 0.488 rim dia, 0.062 rim thickness and 0.412 case head dia

Do you think asking the 5.6x52R to expand that much at the case head is asking too much, to my way of think its at the outer limit ??
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Re: 25-35 Winchester

Post by LawrenceA » 14 Jan 2022, 3:20 pm

30-30 is 38-55 sized to 30 cal.
25-35 is 30-30 sized to 25 cal.
5.6X52R is .22Savage Hi Power which is the 25-35 sized to accept a .227 bullet (not .224).

Sooo....
The base case is nominally the same.
22 SHP brass is probably a lot dearer than 30-30 and harder to get.
Also it is the chamber size you need to consider rather than the nominal cartridge dimensions.
I point this out as having chambered a 6.5x55 found that European brass would not fit. The 6.5x55 is nominally a .476 rim not .473 and the reamer cut for the far more common .473 rim.
As far as stretch it would probably do it but you may need to anneal before as well as after the process.
Either way case length would need checking. Necking down generally lengthens a case and thickens the neck and the opposite is true.
If it were me I would try 30-30 first at least.

Hope this is of some value to you.
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Re: 25-35 Winchester

Post by Bill » 14 Jan 2022, 4:12 pm

Yeah I think 30-30 brass will be closet to specs, have you measured your 30-30 brass cause their seems to be a massive diff in dimensions.

I think I will try the 5.6x52R brass and see what happens thou :drinks:
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Re: 25-35 Winchester

Post by Billo » 25 Aug 2023, 7:35 pm

Well it finally happened, I left my bolt actions in the gun safe, manned up and took the single shot 25-35W to test myself :lol:

Ginger Mountain boar, the slowest and unluckiest pig I found on the hill, managed to tag him in the rump thru a small opening in the blackberries with a follow up shot required another 40m down the blackberry infested hillside. Finally caught sight of one the bigger black boars on the property, would have been over 110kg so my jobs not done.yet :drinks:
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