Light hunting rifles, how is "light" defined?

[Biscuits]

^ I notice you don't have a sling. Have you tried it with a sling, wrapped around your non trigger side upper arm? That will make it a lot more stable. You will probably forget about the balance being forward too.

[in2anity]

Yes good point Biscuits, and probably just presumed by this stage. A basic canvas milsurp sling makes for an excellent offhand two-point setup:

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[Mini Hulk]

^ I notice you don't have a sling. Have you tried it with a sling, wrapped around your non trigger side upper arm? That will make it a lot more stable. You will probably forget about the balance being forward too.

Yeah I do, currently it's on my 22as that's all I've been able to use recently. Shooting with a sling is something I'm trying to get better at.

Maybe I should make a nicer leather one for the howa? hmmm

[bladeracer]

^ I notice you don't have a sling. Have you tried it with a sling, wrapped around your non trigger side upper arm? That will make it a lot more stable. You will probably forget about the balance being forward too.

Yeah I do, currently it's on my 22as that's all I've been able to use recently. Shooting with a sling is something I'm trying to get better at.

Maybe I should make a nicer leather one for the howa? hmmm

They make replicas of the original M1903 shooting sling.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/363695262003

[Mini Hulk]

^ I notice you don't have a sling. Have you tried it with a sling, wrapped around your non trigger side upper arm? That will make it a lot more stable. You will probably forget about the balance being forward too.

Yeah I do, currently it's on my 22as that's all I've been able to use recently. Shooting with a sling is something I'm trying to get better at.

Maybe I should make a nicer leather one for the howa? hmmm

They make replicas of the original M1903 shooting sling.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/363695262003

I don't mind the M1907 sling, and I don't think I could even make one for the prices on ebay. The other kind I was considering was something like the quick adjust one shown in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGDo7GekKq8&t=402s The only problem is that I'll have to figure out how to tie the knot.

[in2anity]

The m1907 is the ultimate utilitarian sling, part of the the bread and butter of SR shooting. From sitting or prone, loosen or disconnect the rear sling attachement, pass your support arm through the loop, then nip it up tight above the bicep, forming triangulation. For standing offhand shots, leave the rear attached, and hasitly "wrap" your support arm around the sling into the two-point stance (similar to the photo above).

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NEVERTHELESS when properly entering the loop, this sling requires setup time - something that is not of essence out in the sticks. In the field I prefer a compromise sling like the "ching sling" https://youtu.be/n-oHZQ2smpA https://youtu.be/WLISJXm42Lk which in the words of Ian is a "a simpler shooting sling compromise"

NOTE: if you get a m1907, do yourself a favor and at least get one from brownells - I have had two from Brownells and they lasted pretty well, although the keepers stretch over time. The best is a Turner sling with the heavy keepers - but they have around a 2yr lead time

[Border_Bloke]

The m1907 is the ultimate utilitarian sling, part of the the bread and butter of SR shooting. From sitting or prone, loosen or disconnect the rear sling attachement, pass your support arm through the loop, then nip it up tight above the bicep, forming triangulation.

What he said - That is exactly how I learned to shoot centrefire 40 years ago...

[solarpak]

All my stalking rifles weigh apron the 3.7 -3.8 kg mark scoped - and for me personally when out in the field with my backpack and quad sticks it seems like the perfect weight.
I have shot heavier rifle / scope combo's (4 kg +) and whilst they also worked you would feel it after a few hours out on foot. The rifle is usually carried in the hands or slung over the shoulder whereas my backpack has the weight evenly distributed over my shoulders / back.

In the end its what your comfortable with - with recoil being a product of what calibre your using and rifle weight - or there abouts.

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