on_one_wheel wrote:A phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range... or bigger
Beat me to it ! Lol
on_one_wheel wrote:A phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range... or bigger
disco stu wrote:I've pondered electronic ignition. At least we wouldn't have the primer issue then!
Blr243 wrote:All the crims and bikies have to have imaginary rifles because they are not allowed to have real ones , I’m amused by their predicament and have no sympathy for them ....they chose their mates and will struggle for quite a while to get licences no matter how much they try to clean up their act
Communism_Is_Cancer wrote:Blr243 wrote:All the crims and bikies have to have imaginary rifles because they are not allowed to have real ones , I’m amused by their predicament and have no sympathy for them ....they chose their mates and will struggle for quite a while to get licences no matter how much they try to clean up their act
Bikies wouldn't waste their time with a licence. There is an estimated 1 million unregistered firearms in the federation with an unregistered 9x19mm Glock being worth about the same price as a legal one and some Beretta pistols worth even cheaper than a registered one.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/guns ... ncy-2021-3
bladeracer wrote:disco stu wrote:I've pondered electronic ignition. At least we wouldn't have the primer issue then!
Remington made an electrically-fired rifle years ago, the EtronX, was even harder to find primers for
I've also wondered about electrically igniting the powder charge without requiring a primer, but I have no real idea of how to go about it without redesigning the firearm and ammo from scratch.
Don_Stevenson wrote:Igniting current powders with a hot filament is quite doable.
A "primer" that consisted of a 0.5mm graphite rod in contact with the powder will become white hot if you run 12-14v across it.
I know this because waaaaay back in my youth a friend and I found some blank ammo in a state forest that the Army had left behind and we set several of them off with a mechanical pencil lead held between two bits of phone wire pushed down the neck and re crimped with pliers and set off with a battery.
For use in a rifle you would just have to repackage it into a primer shaped package and the case would need to allow the powder to sit against the filament.
bladeracer wrote:No1Mk3 wrote:You make it strong enough through the use of heat treated "space age " materials. Cost then becomes your prohibiting factor, not strength. Caseless ammunition is already a fact, and has been for many years but has not crossed over into civilian firearms market
Caseless ammunition does exist, but it hasn't even crossed into military usage, it's a prototype idea that probably can't ever be made to work effectively, at least not before a more useful technology replaces it.
Interesting Don, cheers. That's pretty much exactly what I had in mind. Wouldn't be hard at all to implement into standard primer sized package to use in standard cases
I wondered if the time taken for it to heat up would lead to a delay, but increasing voltage and current would possibly get around that being an issue I imagine. I do wonder why this guy who I was watching or reading about didn't try heat like this.
I've wondered also about powder speed and ability to ignite. I gather blanks use really fast powder. Anyone know if faster powders ignite easier?
InisBineest wrote:If you could design a rifle, one that isn't readily available in Australia, what would you make?
I have a strange taste in rifles so that can think of a few...
My dream would be a revolver carbine that can handle rifle cartridges (223, 308, etc) that has either double or single action, and has system to close the cylinder gap, similar to the Nagant revolver, but without the special case. The only problem is I can't fathom how you could make it strong enough to not blow out. But I like strange things.
A short barreled drilling for more modern cartridges would be nice for hunting too. Like a break open, 3 barreled 223.
The other concept I'd love would be an electronically primed muzzle (or breach) loader suitable for smokeless powder. Would eliminate the need for cases and primers, and could be suitable for target shooting if made well. Not to mention an infinitely adjustable trigger pull. Issue would be ensuring consistent powder loads and bullet seating depth, but I can't see that as insurmountable.
What wacky ideas do you folks have?
bigpete wrote:A triple barrelled 410 with paradox chokes...
Border_Bloke wrote:A cheaper bergstutzen would be nice - an U/O with two rifle barrels (and no shotgun barrel). One rifle for sambar / fallow / bunny / fox. Say a rimfire or 22 Hornet over something like a a 358, 35 Whelen, 9.3x74R, 45/70 etc.
Blaser and I think Merkel make bergstutzens in some calibers but they're bloody expensive and nobody imports them.
mchughcb wrote:InisBineest wrote:If you could design a rifle, one that isn't readily available in Australia, what would you make?
I have a strange taste in rifles so that can think of a few...
My dream would be a revolver carbine that can handle rifle cartridges (223, 308, etc) that has either double or single action, and has system to close the cylinder gap, similar to the Nagant revolver, but without the special case. The only problem is I can't fathom how you could make it strong enough to not blow out. But I like strange things.
A short barreled drilling for more modern cartridges would be nice for hunting too. Like a break open, 3 barreled 223.
The other concept I'd love would be an electronically primed muzzle (or breach) loader suitable for smokeless powder. Would eliminate the need for cases and primers, and could be suitable for target shooting if made well. Not to mention an infinitely adjustable trigger pull. Issue would be ensuring consistent powder loads and bullet seating depth, but I can't see that as insurmountable.
What wacky ideas do you folks have?
Well I managed to my hands on this. I was just a little too big and expensive for my liking. Much prefer my drillings and BBF but if you want a pump action, break open rifle/shotgun they are the ticket.
https://www.innogun.de/en/innogun/hybrid
mchughcb wrote:Well I managed to my hands on this. I was just a little too big and expensive for my liking. Much prefer my drillings and BBF but if you want a pump action, break open rifle/shotgun they are the ticket.
https://www.innogun.de/en/innogun/hybrid
bladeracer wrote:Matt Carriker has a "railgun" that is a "viable" projectile launcher. It fires 280gn steel or iron discs, like coins, at 135fps, with fairly reasonable accuracy, though not a lot of energy - 12ft-lb max. 50rd mag, 2400rpm so a 1.25 second burst.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izW1X2555Wg
Called the E-Shotgun, sold as a toy or training aid, and touted as a non-lethal defensive weapon for riot control and such. The site reads as totally anti-gun though, where the most heinous criminals still deserve to not be killed while carrying out their crimes, based in Chicago.
https://e-shotgun.com/
"The need or willingness to use the device, to deal with danger and self-protection. However, there is a premise for use. We don’t want to cause fatal harm to people."
"E-shotgun is a non-lethal defense system that is focused on protection, not murder. Social violence should be curbed, but not at the cost of living."
I'm not electrically-inclined but I'm sure its power could be boosted
InisBineest wrote:
Never knew this was a thing! Looks amazing!
mchughcb wrote:InisBineest wrote:
Never knew this was a thing! Looks amazing!
Was just too unwieldly to be honest. There was a smaller pump only model and I liked that better.
Border_Bloke wrote:A cheaper bergstutzen would be nice - an U/O with two rifle barrels (and no shotgun barrel). One rifle for sambar / fallow / bunny / fox. Say a rimfire or 22 Hornet over something like a a 358, 35 Whelen, 9.3x74R, 45/70 etc.
Blaser and I think Merkel make bergstutzens in some calibers but they're bloody expensive and nobody imports them.