Running in a new rifle

[offtarget]

if i was to clean it after every shot how much of a clean do i do?
The way the shop tells me to clean it, takes about 25 minutes. So sone shot 25min clean for 5 shots then 3 shot then 25 min clean
At that rate i will spend all day shooting air

[Baldrick314]

if i was to clean it after every shot how much of a clean do i do?
The way the shop tells me to clean it, takes about 25 minutes. So sone shot 25min clean for 5 shots then 3 shot then 25 min clean
At that rate i will spend all day shooting air

25 minutes to clean after one shot? Jeez, you'll scrub half your barrel out.

Just apply solvent to the bore, run a brush through a few times and patch out. Repeat if necessary.

Also to avoid wasting time/ammo you should sight your rifle in while you're doing your break in

[Chronos]

if i was to clean it after every shot how much of a clean do i do?
The way the shop tells me to clean it, takes about 25 minutes. So sone shot 25min clean for 5 shots then 3 shot then 25 min clean
At that rate i will spend all day shooting air

25 minutes to clean after one shot? Jeez, you'll scrub half your barrel out.

Just apply solvent to the bore, run a brush through a few times and patch out. Repeat if necessary.

Also to avoid wasting time/ammo you should sight your rifle in while you're doing your break in

problem with that is the chemical reaction used by a few copper solvents takes 10-13 mins to work, so by rushing the process you never really remove the serious copper fouling (i'm talking about centerfire rifles here of course)

take a look at your solvents instructions if in doubt

Chronos

[Baldrick314]

problem with that is the chemical reaction used by a few copper solvents takes 10-13 mins to work, so by rushing the process you never really remove the serious copper fouling (i'm talking about centerfire rifles here of course)

take a look at your solvents instructions if in doubt

Chronos

Still shouldn't take near half an hour to clean though. Takes say a minute to apply and scrub the bore, allow 10 minutes for it to do it's job, another minute to patch out and you should be good to go

[Chronos]

i agree in part but if i do a full clean with a full wet patch, soak, nylon brush, wet patch, soak and dry patch out for powder then 2-3 cycles the same or similar of copper solvent i'd be looking at an hour but i'm doing other stuff while thats going on. and that would only be on a "special occasion" LOL

Chronos

[chilliman]

if running in a barrel is it necessary to patch out the solvent? why not fire, apply solvent, then brush and repeat? will firing with 'unpatched' solvent in the barrel have any adverse affect on anything? sorry if these are dumb questions.

[Baldrick314]

i agree in part but if i do a full clean with a full wet patch, soak, nylon brush, wet patch, soak and dry patch out for powder then 2-3 cycles the same or similar of copper solvent i'd be looking at an hour but i'm doing other stuff while thats going on. and that would only be on a "special occasion" LOL

Chronos

Ah, I'm only talking one pass through. I remember when I was breaking my rifle in I could get through 4 cleans per shooting session. The shooting sessions at our range are approximately 40 minutes long and I'd be doing the 4th cleaning during the break.

When I'm cleaning my rifles for storage though it takes me around 40 minutes per rifle to clean the barrel, chamber, bolt and oil them up for storage.

[offtarget]

This is a break down of what the store has told me to do

Carbon remval, Hoppes 9, brush let soakfor 5 min then patch clean,

copper remval
Sweets solution, brush soak for 15 min patch clean

shot once clean as above for 5 shots
shot 3 clean as above for 3 shots.

As most of you have just talk about copper is the carbon part a waste of time

[Chronos]

This is a break down of what the store has told me to do

Carbon remval, Hoppes 9, brush let soakfor 5 min then patch clean,

copper remval
Sweets solution, brush soak for 15 min patch clean

shot once clean as above for 5 shots
shot 3 clean as above for 3 shots.

As most of you have just talk about copper is the carbon part a waste of time

Sounds pretty close, I'm not sure I'd leave the sweets in for the full 15 mins, I'd rather do 2 X 10 minute runs cleaning out in between. The reason is that sweets 7.62 is a quite aggressive (but effective) ammonia based cleaner that will damage the bore if left in.

Probably the main reason most done talk about carbon is because in general its easy to remove with a simple soak and a scrub.

Copper in the other hand can be difficult to remove , particularly from bores in poor condition or badly machined. My K98k Israeli Mauser copper fouls terribly, while my match grade target barrels rarely show signs of copper fouling, IVe changed to copper free jags so I can identify and copper in that barrel and it usually takes just one cycle to remove all the copper

Chronos

[jays]

copper remval
Sweets solution, brush soak for 15 min patch clean

You can't use Sweets on all metals though right?

I can't remember which way, but you can use it on stainless, but not blued? (or vice versa, I forget)

?

[Baldrick314]

I haven't heard about not being able to use it on certain types of barrel.

Just don't leave it in too long

[Warrigul]

I haven't heard about not being able to use it on certain types of barrel.

Just don't leave it in too long

Apparently the ammonia in Sweets copper solvent can affect stainless barrels by leaching out component metals in the alloy - I can neither say this is true or not as I can't test it, but just to be very safe I have taken the precaution of only leaving it in for 15 minutes at a time with stainless and as my stainless barrels don't hold copper as badly as my steel ones copper solvent isn't necessary every time I clean them.

[samf]

Cut and paste from a Rangemaster Precision Arms doco on barrel care.

Care of Stainless Steel Barrels

....NEVER use abrasive pastes – RPA recommends a good quality solvent for cleaning such as Hoppes number 9 or Sweets.

So that's one maker that thinks sweets is ok for stainless.

[harlow]

I thought sweets was sort of a last resort for serious copper fouling that wouldn't shift?

I think I read it in an SSAA cleaning thing somewhere maybe? Don't hold me to that... Could be wrong.